Mike Tomlin thinks it's racist to call him a player's coach

You still haven't enlightened me, strummer boy. And for the record, I don't hate Tomlin. I didn't add or subtract words to what he said. In fact, I went back and watched it again to make sure and from about 35 seconds on he says almost exactly what I stated above. The interviewer even seemed surprised by it and said that she would never have thought of it in terms of race. AND YOU SET ASIDE YOUR HATRED OF ME FOR A FEW SECONDS AND FREAKING WATCH THE CLIP!!!!!

 

You didn't add or subtract anything, but "he says almost exactly what I stated". Apparently you did add and subtract and even admitted doing so, but still don't see it. Clearly I did watch the clip. That's how I know you're adding and subtracting from his statement.

 

After sitting through the game Sunday, I wish Tomlin was a former coach. I been defending him forever too. No more!

 

Ok, I didn't quote him verbatim but I think I expressed the gist of what he was saying, don't you? In all seriousness, what do you think Tomlin meant by those remarks? I don't mind having a discussion about what was meant by a particular statement, even though we can't get inside somebody's mind to know exactly what they meant. But in this case, for reasons only known to Tomlin, HE decided to interject race into his response to the player's coach question. Maybe he had a good reason for doing it, I don't know, but I know plenty of white coaches who've been referred to as "player's coaches". Shoot, Ron Rivera is Hispanic and he's been referred to as a player's coach. I really would be interested in your interpretation of what Tomlin meant by his remarks.

 

No, I don't think you conveyed the gist of what he was saying. I think you and others on this board have made a mountain out of mole hill. You hear what you want to hear and then go ape****. How many times do you think Tomlin has heard something to the affect of only being hired because of the Rooney Rule?

 

A lot of people do think he was a Rooney Rule hire and call in and say all the time on Cooler Talk. I personally DON'T think he got hired because of that rule. I genuinely believe the Rooney's thought he was the man for the job. I DO think it could be considered racist to just narrow him down to basically an affirmative action hire. However, I do think that he played the race card a little here with his comment though. He said "invariably I think it means something about my age or my race" to be called a player's coach. He also said it "really doesn't bother me" but he was basically getting at that he's sick of being asked if he's a player's coach. I personally think he is a player's coach and I don't mean that as a compliment for ANY coach. I can understand how people could think that was making it about race though. It was the same as when Richard Sherman, who I love to watch, said the word "thug" was also racist. I guess in his mind if he thinks it is then it is. In my mind it is not. If Tomlin thinks it's racist then I guess it is to him. In my mind it is not. So what is your opinion of what he said? Just out of curiosity I mean how do you personally take it? Also do you consider "player's coach" a pejorative? I do.

 

Strummer, you still haven't told me what YOU THINK HE MEANT BY THE COMMENTS THAT HE MADE IN WHICH HE CLEARLY BRINGS UP RACE AS A REASON HE'S REFERRED TO AS A PLAYER'S COACH. You keep making reference to the fact that you "clearly" watched the clip and then you make your railing accusations about how I and others hate Tomlin and have our panties in a wad but yet you won't comment on what you think he said and what you think he meant. And I'm sure Tomlin has heard the RR comment a few times and I guess that could be where his thin skin comes from, I don't know. I've never said he was hired because of the Rooney Rule. That may be why he was interviewed to begin with but he obviously made a great impression on the Rooneys and on Colbert and now he's the head coach. I was very disappointed that Tomlin found it necessary during that interview yesterday to even bring up race. I thought it made him look petty and overly sensitive.

 

You got me there...and it was black yesterday afternoon over Pittsburgh. Hell, it still is!

 

Cowher made it abundantly clear to the FO. that they needed to look outside the current coaching staff for a replacement.

 

Can you think of any other reason why he might have been hired? Was it the great work he did in his 1 year as a defensive coordinator in Minnesota?

I was in favor of the hiring, but to pretend that Tomlin wasn't hired to advance the Rooney Rule ... that's like sticking to your guns that the Sun doesn't rise in the East. People like to point out that the rule only requires an interview, but ignore the fact that the purpose of the rule is to promote the hiring of more minority head coaches. If our job had come open and we don't hire a minority head coach, Dan Rooney would have been called out on his bull****, and it would have yanked every tooth out of the rule.

The rule is named after Dan Rooney and he was the chairman of the NFL's diversity committee ... and you don't think there wasn't pressure on him to hire a minority head coach?

 

Whiz I have no problem with, but Grimm is a meat head.

 

Well I can believe race was brought into the discussion. It was race which got him hired.

 

This is correct. No need for further discussion. Thank you Ray

 

I think its the exact reason he was hired. The Rooneys might have known they had a veteran laden team and figured anyone with any sense can make the playoffs and a few superbowl runs with this group lets give him a shot. Now that the leaders are gone so is any of his football sense.

 

Three 8-8 or worse seasons in a row??? They could fire him and the question of Race would never come up. If that did happen I would home the Rooney's would chase View attachment 753 down and pay him whatever they needed to pay him

 

Cowher actually had 3 years of DC experience.

And as far as Rooney putting someone in charge just because he is black ... it's not like they pulled some passerby off the street. Tomlin was an NFL football coach. He had a paper thin resume, but there was no reason to believe that he would turn out to be a complete disaster.

 

to me rooney wanted to hire a coach from the minority , and coosed between the best 2 minorities coach were on the market by his point of wiew ..infact he interwieved rivera and tomlin , then tomlin with his oratory (unleashing hell, game of attrition , obviously .... ) won the job

 

Yep, now he's just making our lives as fans a living hell

 

Yeah...how's that working out here again?!