Skip Bayless on James Harrison's return.

I usually don't watch first take but I wanted to see if there was going to be any coverage of Harrison. This clown Skip is ranting about Harrison's domestic violence charges from 2008, his men's journal cover holding the guns, and taking a selfie with Tomlin. It was a quick reminder of why I don't normally watch that show or anything on espn for that matter.

 

I was also watching , and tho i normaly dont agree with SA ( cantstand him ... either one really) i thought he was right on this time

 

I heard some this

and
to revisit history

how many men in the HALL of FAME might be guilty of domestic violence?

I'm going to say quite a damn few

 

Here is the deal from my perspective:

1. Skip Bayless is an idiot. I really don't care what he says.

2. Domestic Violence is no joke and should NOT be taken lightly.

3. Everyone, and I mean everyone, makes mistakes in their life. For some it is drinking and driving, for others it is drugs, and still for others they have trouble controlling their temper. For others it is their sexual appetite not being in control.

4. In almost every case, I do not believe in the death penalty. This includes even Ray Rice. What he did was horrible, and a suspension for the year is not without merit. That being said, mistakes are an opportunity to correct flaws. He made a mistake, let's see if his behavior changes.

5. What if Ben was kicked out of the league for "rape" despite never getting prosecuted? It was he said, she said, but what if the policy was he is gone. Would that be acceptable? For pete's sake, Lewis was accused of MURDER and the media couldn't blow the man enough.

 

Latest stat I heard is 1 out of every 2 women will be a victim of physical abuse at the hands of someone who claims to love her. So most people disparaging these players are either: a) going home to beat his woman, or b) going home to get beat by her man and not leaving him... but acting self-righteous towards others making the same mistake.

 

The number is about 30% will suffer from domestic abuse of any kind (not just physical abuse), not 50%.

 

Jim Brown had a bad history of domestic violence.

 

and it appears he turned the page

O J Simpson not so much

this with James should be a non issue but with the atmosphere today it can't be.

I was really hoping the Smith n Skip would have simply discussed it in football matters

is it good for James to be back?
damn right! it was a necessity and pretty much common sense for us to bring him back

is he too old?? have anything left ????
gonna help hurt the team?

instead it went the way it did and I'm surprised they didn't bring up the pitbull thing as well.
blah blah blah

if Skip could only be more like his brother, then I would enjoy what he's boiling about

 

While fact checking may be necessary, we could both be wrong. These numbers indicate 25%...
http://www.ncadv.org/files/DomesticViolenceFactSheet(National).pdf

The stat I heard does appear to be high.

Thanks for the number correction, but I'm wondering if you have comments about the hypocrisy I mentioned. Any thoughts on that?

 

As a society, we are going to have to make some decisions on how we want to deal with these types of issues. It's going to go beyond domestic violence. NBA team owners are being forced out due to allegations of racism.

I was having a conversation with a good friend the other day and he said that increased recording and surveillance (both institutional and individual) will bring more issues like this to the forefront of society. That's just his feeling. I'm inclined to agree.

This is a good thing, to a degree. People can't keep hiding from their misdeeds.

Based on criminal statistics in the U.S., a vast number of people are going to be out of work if we're going to call for the firing of all people who are offenders of any kind. And who makes these decisions? Employers only care about making money. Firings will only come from a threat to revenue. Let's be clear: the NFL doesn't care about domestic violence. It cares about protecting its image. I have a friend who is boycotting the NFL for the poor manner in which they have handled the Ray Rice situation? What do any of you think of his stance? Too much? Not enough? Just right?

How far are we willing to go to really address societal issues? Or are we just interested in a few witch hunts?

Just questions I ask myself...

 

What hypocrisy? Just because 25% of women out there will suffer from some form of domestic abuse doesn't mean 25% of members on this board are out there abusing women, nor does it mean 25% of men abuse women. You're interpreting the stats incorrectly. It's possible and likely that a man can abuse multiple women. Also, even if 25% of men in all of society were abusing women, it doesn't mean 25% of men on this site here, nor does it mean 25% of men speaking out against domestic abuse are hypocrites.

I don't see any hypocrisy, you're making assumptions based on faulty logic.

 

and I believe skip is a steeler fan. he always was to my knowledge, but that's not going to get the show the ratings.

 

He is a Cowpokes fan Mac.

I can understand the questioning of bringing James back. Not that I question it, i'm glad he is back. But, with the hotbed of domestic violence now in this league, and to have Rooney a part of the overseeing committee for the league investigation(one that I am not happy about) the public is going to question. As they should. James may have to come out and speak about the matter to put it to bed even though it was years ago.

 

So I guess the 2nd Amendment is offensive to Bayless? I'm with you and can't stand to watch that whole channel even. As soon as MNF goes off I change it. Also how far did Harrison actually go in his domestic violence case? I mean it was "Simple Assault" which can even be just making a person feel threatened. Did he actually hit his son's mother or did he just break the law by intimidating her? I just remember him getting arrested and don't remember the actual details of the thing.

 

For what it is worth, Tomlin addressed this ssue with James prior to signing him. Tomlin determined he believes it will not be an issue.

 

Wise words

 

I've seen a friend of mine knock another man unconscious with an open hand to the bridge of the nose. Harrison slapping her is no less offensive than Rice knocking his wife out with a left hook. The only difference is the end result, the act was exactly the same. Harrison is just lucky it was a different time back then.

 

S.A is supposed to be a Steelers fan,, but i think he likes Tomlin more than the team,

 

I'm not passing off anything, it's the same thing in my eyes. He hit a woman, period. I don't care how hard he hit her or whether it was with an open hand or closed fist. Anyway, that was a long time ago so I'm not going to hold it against the guy now. People do make mistakes and people do change.