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thoughts on the dline

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by steel1031, Sep 7, 2014.

  1. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    I have watched and played football my whole life. I don't claim to be an expert by no means and I know the work nfl coaches put in. that being said, has anyone noticed that we have NOBOODY who demands a double team. this defense can line up and 7 out of 10 times I can predict who is coming and what gaps are gonna be there. if I can do it I am sure the nfl coaches can.

    I know the browns made these adjustments at half. I was wondering if anyone agreed with me that the McClendon experiment is a failure. he gets pushed back a lot and you do not have to have a center and guard block him. I seen 2 times where mack put him on his back.

    a true nose would fix a lot of our problems I think. at least in the run game. that and maybe a few different looks on defense
     
  2. Ender

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    You're a Tennesee guy, is McCullers the answer? He looked pretty good to me in the preseason.
     
  3. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    maybe in a couple of years but not now. I will say he is hard for one man to handle but needs a lot of technique work
     
  4. PWP

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    Is pretty spot on IMO. We need Bigger and Stronger guys all the way across the DL.IF the DL can stone the OL then you can stunt ,blitz, play man ,zone, basically anything you want to do.
     
  5. Ender

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    I wish he was ready. Having a nose that commands a double frees up our backers to make plays. Haven't re-watched the game yet but I saw a lot of guards reaching our backers.
     
  6. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    I don't know why you think that. It's really just not true.

    As to McCullers- if the team thought he was an answer at NT, I think they would have ran him there more during preseason. He rarely played 0 tech.
     
  7. Ender

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    TTF, are they grooming him to be 5T and not a nose?
     
  8. HugeSnack

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    Since when is McLendon an experiment? I've noticed that word a lot lately. I guess any player you don't like is an experiment? He's our starting nose tackle. You could call Dri Archer an experiment maybe. McLendon is just a player.

    I'll review the film later, but on my first viewing he did not strike me as the issue in run defense today (or ever).
     
  9. PWP

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    I think he means experiment at a true NT position ? I think he is a good player just not a good NT. We should slide him out to DT IMO. I think he is just to small to play NT in a 3-4.
     
  10. contract

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    Since he isn't a fit at the position he's being asked to play ... and frankly he just isn't very good.
     
  11. steelers5859

    steelers5859 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think McLendon is the problem. I think it's Cam Thomas on the left side. Him and Worilds can not hold the edge to save their life. We got gashed on the left side so bad they move Kiesel over there.
     
  12. contract

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    Thomas wasn't here last season.
     
  13. darcrav

    darcrav Well-Known Member

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    he meant today
    and next week in another win it wil be Worilds underachieving for all that money
    then the next week in another win it will.....
     
  14. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    I never said I dislike McClendon. I just think he is an end in a 3-4. I don't think he is a nt. I think the reason he is the starting nose tackle is because he is the best option in a pool of a lot of bad options. we were not prepared when casey left.imo the 3-4 all starts up front. if your weak up there( and we are) you are weak. it showed today.
    Tom Jackson on espn even said it minutes ago. those yards came up the middle. not much you can do to stop it
     
  15. HugeSnack

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    Well he's been a NT since he entered the NFL in 2009. That's one hell of a long experiment. Next up, is the Ramon Foster at OG experiment over? Should we finally kick him to tackle or center??

    McLendon is just a different kind of NT. People complained about keeping Casey around because the league had changed and we no longer needed a big fat tub of lard to clog up the middle. Well now we have a quicker, smaller guy, and people say he's not big enough.

    He's definitely one of the first guys I'll grade, because now I'm curious. But since that one guy saw him get pushed way back by the All-Pro center, I'll point out that I saw him absolutely embarrass that All-Pro center, at least once.
     
  16. HugeSnack

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    That's not true, we were grooming McLendon to take over, just like he did. We didn't find ourselves caught without a NT. McLendon was the plan.
     
  17. steel1031

    steel1031 Well-Known Member

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    yes he had one play. maybe two. but how can you even try and defend anyone on the dline after Cleveland just embarrassed us on the ground? yes he is a different kind of nt, the wrong kind
     
  18. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Im a happy camper

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  19. TerribleTowelFlying

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  20. SteelerGlenn

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    I've been as critical as anyone of McLendon, but I'd like to know how many of Cleveland's big runs he was even on the field for before I start ripping him?
     
  21. SteelLaw

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    I thought we played A LOT of Nickle in the second half so McLendon was not on the filed a lot in the second half. I could be wrong. I saw the backside outside LB's getting cought inside opening the cut back running lane on EVERY run and play action pass.
     
  22. SGSteeler

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    Thomas didn't look really good to me either... It's only one game though. Maybe we will see more Beard and Tuitt manning the left side with Heyward or the right. McLendon looked fine to me. I don't think he's the answer, but idt he is the problem either.
     
  23. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Still his fault :lolol:

    Mclendon isn't the problem but people will still cling to it.
     
  24. SteelerGlenn

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    I wouldn't say he is without fault. The D-Line as a hole is struggling!
     
  25. SteelerGlenn

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    Well let's see, first it was Tomlin, then Ben, then Tomlin, then Ben, then Tomlin, then Ben, then Tomlin, then Jarvis Jones, then Landry Jones, then Tomlin again and now Taylor!
     

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