Jarvis Jones- panic button time?

I was ecstatic when they drafted him, ( I wanted Ogletree but he wasn't around) I allowed him to have a poor rookie campaign as I/ we just chalked it up to being a rookie. Now, however, I have concerns. I'm definitely not throwing in the towel, but sooner than later this guy has to show something to warrant his selection. He played the other night, and was not much of a factor IMO, and I'm no scout for any team, but he looks the same today as a year ago. The Eagles have one of the best O lines in the NFL and even the best are not getting a sack each game, but to me he was invisible. So, is it me, or is the clock ticking on labeling him a wasted pick? Thought.....

 

It's his second season so no

 

Relax people. We play a very basic defense scheme in preseason.

 

That same defense made it's way to the regular season last year.

 

That defense doesn't say get crumpled by the O-lineman blocking you....

 

Jones seems like a good young man but I have never understood the pick. Coming out of college his bench reps, 40 times etc. were all sub-par. Coaches can only do so much with that.

 

I agree, regardless of scheme you see him try desperately to move around T's in this league and his dreadlocks just get swallowed up by bigger dudes

 

I never did like the pick. When I watched his Georgia tape, his highlights was from being either upblocked or against a smaller running back. I rarely seen him beat an offensive lineman.

Everyone is saying, he's in his second year or very vanilla defense was used which is all true. But from where he was drafted and the expectations I think we should se more flashes of him rushing the passer.

When we draft a player in the first round OLB some things he should already have. I know development is needed but strength and a passing rushing moves should be high on the list. That's like drafting a first round quarterback that has accuracy issues or no pocket awareness.

I'm not giving up on him by any means but maybe his future is ILB.

 

I have some concerns, I expected him to come into this season bigger and stronger he shows up the same as last season but says he has gotten stronger haven't seen it so far. My expectations aren't very high of him I see him getting 5-6 sacks this season.

 

I'd take that

 

Bring Harrison back and put Jones on the bench. Or play in in Nickel package as an ILB.

Heyward, McCullers, McCleandon and Worilds as the nickel rushers. or Harrison, Heyward, McCullers and Worilds. Any combination without Jones at OLB.

 

I get we're playing vanilla D in these games. But the OLB position in our defense, you want to see flashes of athleticism/speed/power in any combination. You certainly want to see your splash play guys win 1-1 battles. and if they're at the superstar positions of your D, you want to see them win these battles more often than not. And in JJ's case, he's not showing either a flash, or the ability to consistently show 1-1 wins. If you compare JJ to say, Shazier...you see glimpses in his game that say it'll translate, once his brain is moving as quickly as his body—and he's a rookie.
I'm certainly not hitting the eject button yet. However, I've located it, and my hand is hovering above. Preseason is a time where supreme athletes should show up, specifically because the other team isn't game planning against your D, and he is non-existant. What makes JJ so frustrating is he plays a critical position in our D. Having average OLB's in a 3-4 defense all but insures an average overall D. Here's to hoping...
Go Burgh!

 

Didn't like the pick when we made it and still don't.

 

I feel the same way about everything you mentioned above, but now with the log jam at ILB, and given the fact that pass coverage isn't his strong suit, where does he fit in?

I really feel JJ isn't going to be a major Sack artist here. He seems to be better at batting down balls, causing fumbles or recovering them.

 

I'm with you, never liked this pick.

 

We have problems and they playoff each other. We are not strong enough up front to hold the LOS and we lack the skills to play tight coverage..

So if we give extra help up front we expose our weakness even more on the back end ..The bottom line is we need Bigger Stronger guys up front and Bigger ,Stronger, and Faster CB'S .

 

Badboy, I felt the same way after Troy's rookie year. I was thinking "holy crap, and we TRADED UP for this guy." Needless to say, I ate crow...

 

Jones needs to come off of the field in nickel; he is just not physical enough to play 2-4 nickel in the nfl right now. Ziggy Hood 2.0, except at 3-4 olb.

 

Not sure what to think of it. He definitely seems to get pushed around way too easy. I'm not sure if he's strong enough to play the position at this level. But I'm not a scout nor a coach. I'm hoping Joey porter's can really have an impact on this guy. He might be a 1st rd pick, but DL will sit him in favor of someone else who can make plays if he has a sub par start of the season. Moats, so'to, someone who has a nose for the ball.

 

Are you asking if it's time to call Jarvis Jones a buu...a buuuuu...time to call him a buuuuuu...oh, I can't even bring myself to type it! I think it's premature at this point but with another disappointing season the B word will be flying around like bullets at the shooting range!

 

Oh, I'm sure it will be revisited many times this season, Blast. But I agree, we need to give him a fair shake.

 

The last few drafts have been suspect.