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Cut-block play that took out Pouncey gone from playbook

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Jun 4, 2014.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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  2. CANTON STEEL

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  3. TerribleTowelFlying

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    I have to admit that I kind of hope it's not true. Let's not make our opponent's defensive preparation that much easier by announcing it to the world.
     
  4. mac daddyo

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    it's not the play that was the problem. DD needs to look at what he's hitting. it's like letting a blind guy drive and blaming the car because he hit something.:cool:
     
  5. Blast Furnace

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    Is it something that is used widely around the league? Just wondering if Bicknell tried implementing something that isn't viewed favorably and then lost his best offensive lineman to it. Would imagine that played a role in his firing if true.

    As far as tipping our hand to opposing defenses, don't think it would matter much in the long run, a little film study will show we aren't using it anyway.
     
  6. CANTON STEEL

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    I blame whoever let the blind man drive
     
  7. mac daddyo

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    ok, them it's like letting a guy with 20-20 vision drive and then he closes his eyes. it's still not the cars fault.;):cool:
     
  8. Blast Furnace

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    :lolol:
     
  9. TerribleTowelFlying

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    Sure is, and it's been a part of Munchak's line's toolkit in the past.
     
  10. Blast Furnace

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    Guess that order came from above then or Munch doesn't believe they are capable of running it :hmmm:
     
  11. mac daddyo

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    I also read it's not just that play but we will not do any cut blocking.

    munch also keeps praising beachum,DD and pouncey's ability to run, but not foster or gilbert. I've seen two or three articles saying this same thing from munch about guys that can run. are foster's and gilberts jobs in jeopardy because of mobility or will we continue with a mismatched line as I've talked about in the past? 5 working as one is key in the run game. how's the pass protection is my main concern since we throw 60% of the time. we have also been working hard on the deep passing game I have read, so it's a pretty important part of the offense too.:hmmm::cool:
     
  12. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Right, from BF's article according to Pouncey:

    “That was the last time we ran that play,” Pouncey said Tuesday as the Steelers began the second of their four weeks of offseason practices. “We're working on it now (the outside zone blocking), but we'll take away the cut blocking.
    “We're not doing that anymore.”

    Foster and Gilbert aren't guys who I could see anyone praising for their running ability. :lolol:

    Either way, Munch has worked with less nimble lines in the past. He's had a mix of plodders and still ran stretch. I can't see anyone usurping Foster at LG this year.
     
  13. TerribleTowelFlying

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    I'd have to assume it came from above if it is indeed the case.
     
  14. Busman

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    Cut blocking is just plain ridiculous. Should be removed from every play and every NFL team. Make it illegal. It is essentially a cheap shot if you ask me. When a lineman is engaged its very difficult to be aware someone is trying to take you out of football.

    Bman
     
  15. TheSteelHurtin2188

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    Pouncey is somewhat at fault here as well. I believe I read that pouncey was supposed to disengage him but he blew off the line causing DD to cut Pouncey instead. Either way DD should have had his head up. I don't think there is anyway in hell the cut block us actually gone.
     
  16. CANTON STEEL

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    I wish I could remember where but i swear i read an article the other day that was basically praising the work Adams has been putting in at RT with the #1's and left me thinking Gilberts job was definitely in jeopardy. At least his starting position.
     
  17. niterider

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    The tone of this concerns me:

    “If Mr. Rooney blesses me, it will be a dream come true,” said Pouncey, who will make $1,288,375 this season, with bonuses pushing his salary cap hit to $5,514,000. “I want to stay in Pittsburgh my whole career, and it's on them, man.

    “I'm here every day working, there's loyalty with them and I think they'll do the right thing."


    Maybe I read it in my mind differently than intended. But it sound's like he's looking to be paid more than any other center.
     
  18. Bleedsteel

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    :this!: Regardless of it`s "a lineman 2 positions away", or whatever other rules govern it.
    It`s cheap, and should be removed COMPLETELY!
    The only exception I could possibly see, is a back/receiver/te, in the backfield, going at the legs of a charging defender, who is NOT engaged with another blocker.
    Not sure if that is technically a "cut block", but going at the legs, is the only chance some of the smaller backs have against a charging linebacker/defensive end type.
    GO STEELERS!
     
  19. Lizard72

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    The problem was how badly the guys were coached to execute it, which shows how dangerous cut blocking like that really is. They did not have the right technique and it cost their own team. That's why Bicknell was fired, he didn't teach those guys technique.

    One of the first things these linemen said about Munchak, was how they were learning the correct technique (footwork, body position, etc.).
     
  20. Busman

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    Yup.. Good point. See nothing with that either BleedSteel. You know its a possibility as you pursue and your not going to get blindsided .

    Levels the playing field and most certainly makes it fairer.

    Bman
     

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