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WHAT WOULD BE A SUCCESSFUL DRAFT IN YOUR EYES?

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by Wardismvp, May 8, 2014.

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  1. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think he starts at ILB Day 1. I still don't think its out of the question that if we lose Jason Worilds in 2015 that Shazier moves to OLB. Jarvis switches to LOLB, Shazier to ROLB, and if he is up to it, Spence slots in at ILB.

    But for 2014, I expect Shazier to get alot of snaps and to be quite productive. I think Clowney & Donald are going to situations where one of them probably emerges as Defensive Rookie of the Year, but I believe Shazier will be hot on their heels.
     
    SteelCity_NB, May 13, 2014
    SteelCity_NB, May 13, 2014
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  2. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    You know Cowher use to say to Lloyd
    GET THE QB, hopefully this will be said to this young man.
     
    Wardismvp, May 17, 2014
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  3. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I don't see Shazier moving to OLB at all he's too light, people thought Jones wasn't strong enough at OLB and he's 15-20 LBS heavier than Shazier.
     
    steelersrule6, May 17, 2014
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  4. SGSteeler

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    Shazier is only 8 pounds lighter than JJ, but I agree that he will probably not be headed outside at all in Pittsburgh. Seems like his skill set would be best utilized at ILB. It wouldn't shock me for JJ to move to the left side if Worilds walks tho. However, I think he will be okay on the right this season.
     
    SGSteeler, May 17, 2014
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  5. bedwyr

    bedwyr Well-Known Member

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    JJ will add a few pounds this season, he'll play quicker too.
     
    bedwyr, May 17, 2014
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  6. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    Probably the exception to the rule I know, but James Harrison came into the league at 6'0 240 lbs and he turned out alright. They will put Shazier wherever he is going to make the biggest impact.
     
    SteelCity_NB, May 19, 2014
    SteelCity_NB, May 19, 2014
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  7. HugeSnack

    HugeSnack Well-Known Member

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    On the field. Just put him on the field :thumbs_up:

    But I tend to agree with the other guy. I don't see him at OLB long-term. James Harrison was a freak of strength the way Ryan Shazier is a freak of speed. Shazier doesn't have that strength-to-size ratio. Maybe they'll stick him out there on passing downs, and maybe he'll be a Timmons-esque emergency OLB, but that doesn't seem to be the best way to utilize his talents.
     
    HugeSnack, May 19, 2014
    HugeSnack, May 19, 2014
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  8. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think Shazier will probably stay at ILB, but I do think the physical ability is there for him to be a very good OLB down the road. By way of comparison, look at Clay Matthews. He came in at 6'3" 240, which is less stout than 6'1" 237. Shazier's explosion numbers were superior across the board: bench 25 vs. 23, vertical 42 vs. 35, broad jump 10'10" vs. 10'3". Also, I read that Matthews entered USC at 166 lbs, and has gotten to 255 in the NFL. If Shazier can pick up another 10-15 lbs he can be a freakishly explosive edge rusher. You can already see some of the necessary skills on film. Edge rushers are valuable commodities, so if he can do it, don't discount the possibility of it happening.
     
    Steel_Elvis, May 20, 2014
    Steel_Elvis, May 20, 2014
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  9. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    I think if nothing else it will allow Timmons to be less of a cover backer and allow him to rush the passer in the face of the qb which LT does quite well. don't forget if they play it right and McCullers is in there, it will be difficult to get to or pick up blitzers up the gut. he's hard to get around and the wingspan and size will make things difficult for qb's to see and have open passing lanes. it should make our ILB'ers more of a threat. it doesn't all have to come from the OLB'ers. our DE's are now also a pass rush threat. it will definitely throw some kinks in pass protection for other teams.:cool:
     
    mac daddyo, May 20, 2014
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  10. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I too agree that Shazier will indeed free
    up Timmons one of our most GIFTED
    players to MAKE PLAYS. Let them play
    DICK.
     
    Wardismvp, May 24, 2014
    Wardismvp, May 24, 2014
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  11. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Oh, they will play. I'm pretty sure that barring injury Shazier and Tuitt will get more snaps than anyone else at their positions, even if they don't technically "start" from day 1.
     
    Steel_Elvis, May 24, 2014
    Steel_Elvis, May 24, 2014
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  12. Wardismvp

    Wardismvp Well-Known Member

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    I should have stated different, Let them play,
    should have been TURN THEM LOOSE. Get
    back to exciting brand of football. Watch MT
    seats vanish, Shamarko should also
    be included in this conversation. Lets see Timmons, Shazier, Cam, Shamarko ,
    Troy, some pretty nice players TURN
    THEM LOOSE, Bell, AB, #7, Heath, some pretty
    nice ball players there. Game changers
    now exist, let them CHANGE games.
     
    Wardismvp, May 25, 2014
    Wardismvp, May 25, 2014
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