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He ended strong against good competition in a position given to him the first time. I'll take Beaches play the end of last season going forward. He played above the line_one word:

SUGGS

 

he was also essentially a rookie at the position having very little if any practice time at that position. having to learn all 5 positions on the line is pretty impressive. over 800 snaps and 7 sacks. questionably 7 sacks. for a late 7th round pick? that's some pretty decent ball. i beg to differ with you on being paid to watch film, it's part of the process of playing in the NFL.

 

So you don't think its possible for this young player to improve?

 

Yeah, he has looked terrible at times, but he does have a lot of potential and his 2nd offseason was completely robbed from him. He'll definitely be better this year. Will he be good enough? I have no idea, that would take a lot of improvement, but writing him off does nothing. All the guy said was that he'd like to see Adams WIN the spot (not be handed the spot as-is), and that it's a good sign that he's been working hard this offseason. Hard to disagree with that, isn't it?

Beachum improved as the year went on. Surely you can factor time into your statistic, can't you? He is still a question mark, but he showed promise and there's reason to hope he will pan out. He's an undersized 7th rounder that learned 5 positions as a rookie and was probably never really expected to even play LT. Why have you cemented his fate like he can't turn out to be the guy? Do you remember how bad he was his first preseason? He looked like he wasn't even sure what team he was playing for. He's already come a long way and he's only played a handful of games in his career. The man has made tremendous strides in a short amount of time, and has every intangible going for him. As a Steelers fan (I assume you are), I'd think you would be hopeful.

Well that's not true. Of course he gets paid to watch film. It's part of being on a football team.

Well that's true. If only there was something he could be doing right now to help make sure he gets beat less and misses fewer assignments when the games start. If only there was some magical way for him to prepare by watching what other teams have done, to help predict what they might do in the future. And if he could somehow review what his own team did last year and learn from the mistakes, that would be great too! Oh well, that's not his job.

You've got the stats. How does his sacks allowed per snaps played percentage from the first half of his games played compare with the percentage from the last half of his games played? Did it get better? Does it matter if it did, or are you done with him no matter what? I mean, he's backup material and that's that, right?

 

That is pretty decent for a 7th rd pick. Good even. But once a player steps on the field, how he was acquired is meaningless. He is either doing the job or not.

 

Improve? I suppose. But do I think he'll ever improve to starting caliber? No. Let me put it this way, Beachum will never rise to the level of John Jackson, Wayne Gandy, Marvel Smith, or Max Starks.

 

Tim Tebow works hard at honing his craft and improving his game ... and is earning $0 for playing football. Players get paid to perform, not to prepare.

 

Preparation is part of performing... A REALLY BIG part of performing, especially in professional sports. Yes, being a good performer is more important than being good in preparation. However, you cant have the former without the latter.

 

Wow... What's with the hate on Beach? Kid played his ass off! I remember a certain someone getting mauled in the Vikings game... Completely chewed up.

I hope Adams and Gilbert both show up and live up to their draft status... Whoever wins whatever spot is nothing more than beating a man out! Put the best of what we got on the line and play ball.

And I hope they all study the hell out of film... That's part of their JOB!

 

This is a good point, everybody. Working hard and honing your craft has nothing to do with performance. It's not part of it at all.

 

If you don't watch a minute of tape, or lift, and do nothing but sit around on you ass all day, and you go out on the field play like a pro bowler, you will be paid accordingly. You can work harder than anyone has ever worked and watch tape until your eyes bleed, and if you don't perform on the field, you will be unemployed.

That is fact.

 

What hate? He's backup quality. That doesn't make him a bad person, just a bad starter.

 

Work ethic and doing things besides play games like lifting and watching tape is not connected to performance. Fact.

 

He's not denying anything. In between his opinions, he's being careful enough to say OBVIOUS, irrefutable facts and phrase them like rebuttals. That way he can be technically right (except for the stuff he's wrong about) and treat us like dumbasses at the same time.

person: "I think Beachum will be better this year."

contract: "Beachum is not good."

person: "Well, I think he'll be better. He got better during last year and he has a good work ethic and he's still so inexper--"

contract: "I know a guy with good work ethic and he's bad too. You have to be good at football."

person: "...............Yeah. I know that. Everybody knows that. What the hell are you talking about?"

contract: "I heard about a guy that is good even though he doesn't work that hard."

person: "Well gee I guess no one should work hard because then they'll be Tim Tebow and players should all slack off because they get 'paid to perform, not to work' and effort and time committed don't make a difference anyway, is that right?"

contract: "Beachum allowed 7 sacks."


I think people who are this careful about their phrasing are really just here to annoy us. I don't make a habit of accusing other posters of trolling (and TTF you can take this down if you need to), but the alternative is that this man honestly does not believe that doing things like studying film or even trying will make a young, inexperienced player better. And no one thinks that.

 

You obviously are just trying to stir the pot here, right? I mean you really can't be serious about what your saying. If I was you, said what you say and I thought I really meant it I would, probably, have to kick my own a$$. Really, throw me a bone and tell me your just messing around or might totally lose faith in all humanity. At least, tell me that you have been frozen in ice and were just, recently, thawed and have now, for the first time ever, discovered the game of football.

 

Of course I'm not denying that preparation and hard work improve your chances to succeed on the field. I'm saying that preparation is not what determines employment or pay. If it did, 1/2 of us on this forum would be on NFL teams, because anyone can work hard and study film.

 

Can we all just agree that that never happened? With every year that passes, that loss becomes more distressing. Not only because it was our window of opportunity slamming shut, but also because it become clearer and clearer that we had no business losing to that team and that QB.

 

Persecution complex much?

No you are not right about Beachum. No I will not bend to your will. I couldn't care less if you like it or not. If it makes you feel like a dumbass, or if it makes you feel that you're being treated like a dumbass ... I can live with that. If an opinion is expressed that I disagree with, I will continue to feel free to refute it. If an opinion is expressed that I strongly disagree with, I will continue to adamantly refute it. If you can't deal with opposing points of view ... my screen name is "contract" ... feel free to skip over my posts.

 

Bad teams don't work and and prepare? Do 8-8 teams work hard and prepare?