Steelers Are Using Transition Tag On Worilds

Because someone would have to offer something ridiculous, even then we would still be able to match it. We obviously think we can afford a 9.x mil cap hit for Worilds this year, I don't see a team being able to throw so much more at him in 2014 that we wouldn't be able to handle it. Plus this doesn't even figure in the impact of not needing Woodley anymore. Cutting Woodley (pre June 1) frees up 14mil in 2015 and 12mil in 2016. We can afford Worilds even at a "desperate" and/or frontloaded price. This tag tells Worilds that we want him, and we want him long term. Now, we should be able to get a long term deal with him done. We can afford it.

 

the right move would be sign worilds 6 years with big sb (16/18 mil) and low base salary in year one , and cut woodley pre june 1 and free up the money in 2015 and ..

 

We can still get this done. The transition tag doesn't mean we can't keep negotiating a long term deal with him. Honestly, I bet what you said is exactly what ends up happening now.

 

thanks. I remembered using it. I think right now they are just to far apart. all this does it give us a chance to keep him if price is right

 

14.17 mil to cut woodley pre june 1 in dead money. colon is 4.3 in dead money. 17.47 mil. dead money for both. add the 9+ for worilds and we are looking at 26.5 mil. and only 1 player. that doesn't leave much if we figure in the rest of them and ben. even with the increase in cap money. i don't see woodley getting cut pre june 1.

 

the 9 milion will dissapear if we sign worilds long term , he will be around 3 milion in cap , then restructur brown same way and we can eat the dead money .

 

But w/the cap increase teams have more money to throw around. I get your point on Woodley, but I don't see it being a foregone conclusion that some team will be scared away by the $9.XM the Steelers are willing to give Worlilds. So if some team throws money at him we have to match the contract including something that might be a $13 or $14M number for year one. If that is done you get no compensation for him because you put the Transition Tag on him. Why not just bite the bullet and franchise tag him and really see how Woodley and Worilds play with or off each other this coming year. Then you might know going into next year if Worilds is really worth keeping and whether Woodley has a possible second life to his career. I just think this is a greater roll of the dice considering the situation that Worilds may be the only real solid pass rushing option out there (

 

i don't think we have the money to carry the worilds tag and the woodley salary togheter

 

don't think they will have to. he will definitely get an offer so it will be up to us to match. I am willing to bet someone will pay 7/8 million a year.

 

I was wondering that too, but w/restructuring voodoo that Colbert likes to use I guess they can figure something out. That is why I was thinking they should just to the whole 9 yards and franchise him, that way you know you have him and can figure things out going into next year. Then again I guess Colbert really thinks he knows the market and believes the Transition will get it done.

 

I'm under the impression that the transition tag just means no compensation in the form of first round picks if we lose him. We would still get a normal compensatory pick in 2015 (3rd round) if someone were willing to offer the ridiculous contract that you mentioned above. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

While there is some risk that someone will go overboard and offer a 13mil first year total, its not like we couldn't offer him an equal amount by means of a larger signing bonus. I'd be really surprised if someone thinks Worilds is worth that much... I really would. I think we get by with this tag and get him signed long term.

 

transitioned him...

 

for what ? to have two overpayd olb with one injurie prone destroying our cap in the future with the usual restructure ? . one of them is enough should find a cheaper backup
i hope somebody overpayd worilds and we find a olb after june cuts and we release woodley , time to clean the house also if we have to suffer one year
last season the rats bought for 5 milion a year dumervil .. i think our front office panic too often

 

They wouldn't have tagged him if they didnt think they were going to work a long term deal out

 

Yes, but we are already on the hook for 13.59 for Woodley this year no matter what... meaning that cutting him will only cost us 580k more. The 9mil for Worilds will be easy since cutting Ike (or him taking a giant pay cut) will save us 7mil. Foote cut saves us 1.16mil. Cutting Woodley pre June 1 just makes so much more sense since it will be a 580k shot to the head, then bye bye for good. No more dead money. Post June 1 only saves us 5.51mil and still leaves us on the hook for 8.58mil dead money in 2015. That should be a last resort. I think we will get a deal done with Worilds now, and his cap number for 2014 should drop some. I agree that is a big dead money number, but sometimes you gotta bite the bullet and do it. It puts us in a beautiful surplus scenario in 2015 and 2106 if done pre June 1. Not so much if done after.

 

like starks the first time ?

 

Perfect. Thanks TTF.

 

so this tag make sense push a desperate team to overpayd worilds so we can get a high cp pick in 2015 , while or we keep woodley at reduce salary or found a cheaper one in june . stop overpaying avarage palyer and build some cap and new blood in the future

 

Agree - thanks for the clarification.