again different

I look at this draft as one that has so many ways the steelers could go, which is why I've put so many different scanario's out there for discussion. it is a message board for discussion right?

I have to rule out so many guys that are on most boards because we just won't be picking certain positions. even after guys that are ranked 1-32 on most boards. so guys that are ranked 1-50 are in consideration for us if we rule the "no way" picks out.

since we don't know yet about team moves for certain players and who we are keeping or re-signing yet, it makes it hard to adjust. if we had to go with who we have on this team as of right now, I'm going to throw this one at you.

most won't like it but it fills holes as we stand right now with some good players that could make a difference within a year or two. we have to consider next years free agents also since money will probably be tight again and who we may not re-sign or extend whether because of age or money woes. so here goes.



1. kyle fuller CB V.T. 6-0 194 4.45....... mayock likes him and I have always thought he was one of if not the top cb in this draft. I've not considered him as a 1 but thinking about it and ruling out a lot of no picks, added with our need at this spot for a good starter, I think he would be a very solid pick for us.

2. Bradley roby CB Oh.St. 5-11 192 4.39......... they like buckeye players and especially top ones. roby is a playmaker and would like to see what lake could do for his game. tez is a FA after this year and gay is too. we have a need for this position and getting two of the best in the draft would really sure up our defense. I don't think making our defensive backfield a high priority is a bad thing with the state it's in right now.

3. billy turner OT/OG N.D.St. 6-5 316 5.28........ the kid can play. LT and may be one of the better run blockers in the draft. we need to keep re-loading the line to make this offense keep up and protect our assets in ben and bell. he's got a ton of upside for munch to mold. the kid is a nasty player too. if he would slip to our comp pick in the 3rd, he'd be a steal for us and the o-line.

4. Brandon coleman WR Rut. 6-5 220 4.59........ smart. has a ton of size for the position. great hands. good blocker. would be ranked much higher if Rutgers would have had a qb during his time there. big target that should go earlier than this, and can do everything we want as a big wr. 2 time academic all-American. the kids got the goods to succeed and help us with who's here right now.

5. james gayle OLB V.T. 6-4 255 4.58........ used the wrong way at VT. he played as a 4-3 DE. he's got the speed and moves to play OLB on the left side for us. a year with joey and butler and the kid could become a great addition to our pass rush. big time upside in our 3-4.

5.a. tyler gafney RB Stanford 6-0 226 4.57........ smart and one heck of an athlete. played minor league baseball for the pirates. was the workhorse for Stanford. we need a good RB behind bell, and this kid fits that bill. he could caryy the load if bell gets dinged up during the year. it's a long season.

6. Daniel Sorensen SS/FS BYU 6-2 208 4.55........ I really like this kid and what he brings as a player. great range and football instincts for the position. can play up close or the deep center field. great size to match up with backs or TE's downfield. he's moved up the boards a lot from just a month or so ago and should keep climbing. he makes plays.

7. caleb lavey ILB Ok.St. 6-2 235 4.64......... I've liked him since last year. he's as solid an ILB as there is in this draft and I'm not sure why he's been snubbed somewhat up until now. he's got great football instincts in both the run game and passing game. he can create turnovers, whether by fumbles or picks and passes defended. he's got size, speed and smarts for the spot. he's an absolute steal this deep in the draft. shame on the draft pro's for overlooking him. I hope our scouts wouldn't. maybe we can finally move on from sly.

7.a. Nehemiah hicks TE Texas A&M 6-4 255 4.68........... he's the real TE at A&M. not the glorified WR that amaro is. hicks has size and speed and good hands. just overshadowed in that offense. he's also a good blocker. whether he's brought in as an UDFA or we get that extra comp pick, he's another guy that's flying under the radar and would benefit us. he may become that ebron pick, without using a first. wouldn't we look smart?

OK there's my mock for the picking. consider it's all for discussion at this stage of the game. maybe it's a route we could consider if it fell this way and our needs as we stand right now. have at it. don't be afraid to give a why about certain players if you don't like them either not just I hate that pick.

 

I like the late round guys, although I'd rather see a safety before round 6 (and someone who is more of a pure FS). Turner would be good value in round 3, but I think that is too early for us to be taking a OLineman this year. 2 CB's are a must this year, and those two guys would make the position a strength. I think Roby comes off the board before Fuller in May tho. His 40 time is going to make all the difference, so wont be there at 47 idt. Fuller might not either, but he definitely is a reach at 15. Gilbet and Dennard are both clearly better CB's IMO and one of those guys, if not both of them, should be available to us at pick 15.

 

I think it depends on roby running. he may end up in the first. fuller has the numbers. as good as gilbert and better than dennard and roby. Sorensen can play both and has better numbers than ha ha , brooks, and pryor. not sure why he's not as good in your rankings though, he's put the better play on the field. so has fuller.

 

I still think Fuller is a very good player, I just don't think he is as good as Gilbert or Dennard. It's mostly just personal preference more than anything. I like Gilbert's athleticism and Dennard's coverage skills, toughness, and swagger... I never necessarily thought Roby should get drafted higher than Fuller, I just think he will. Fuller has definitely put better play on the field than Roby, but Roby will run 4.3 something and someone is going to fall in love with that.

I know you like Sorensen (among other BYU players), but I just don't see what you see. I think he is solid, and probably worth a shot in the later rounds but he isn't Ha HA or Pryor. He certainly hasn't put better play on the field than either of the other safeties, he just has better stats. Stats are just numbers, and if they meant a whole lot he would be a 1st round prospect like HaHa and Pryor... but he's not. I only prefer a true FS because I think Shamarko will be our starting SS in 2015 and we will probably sign a FA or draft someone to become the starting FS. That is where our void is at the safety position. Either way its only my personal opinion I'm cool with yours being different than mine.

 

Not interested in Roby at the end of the season Ohio State struggled on defense, there will be bigger and better CB available in the second round.

 

Mac, I am liking your position selections.
The needs are there. I am in a toss up
of a safety first or a CB? Both need addressed.
We are woeful on talent at these 2 positions.

 

yep, good catch steel. I still like hicks as an under the radar guy if we don't take one early. I still like bolser late too, just not the speed as hicks and the others. he's more of a fiedorowicz mold. that's not a bad thing either. I am leaning towards one of the TE's that can block better because of our struggles last year trying to find one to block before heath and spaeth came back. I will say however DJ has made big strides in that area, if he could stay on the field.

as far as coleman, I have liked him for a while and think if he's taken this late it's a steal and a win for a team.

turner I like a lot and I think munch could play him in a couple of different spots. the kid can run block. he's nasty. what's the best part is his ability to play the money spot too if beachum would get dinged up. I still think this will be a need for us. being a small school kid, he will need some coaching up but we have the guy to do it. I think we have to take advantage of that while we have him.

lavey may be one of my favorites though. whether drafted or a priority UDFA. lots of football insticts and athletic for the spot.

whats your thoughts on carl Bradford? I think he could play inside in a 3-4 too next to Timmons. unless van noy is sitting there in the 2nd.

 

Unless Fuller is rocketing up the boards of rankings, I see no reason he isn't going to be available in the 2nd. Many of the mocks I have seen, have him going in the late 2nd or early 3rd. If that holds true...we could potentially get a Gilbert in 1 and Fuller in 2...then you take Brooks S from FSU in the 3rd or 4th and this team has done its number 1 priority for me...fix the secondary. I want a weapon for Ben, but I am beginning to think that may come from the UFA market assuming there is something we like there. Brown and Cotchery are our only vets. Adding a vet WR may make sense.

 

http://www.steelersdepot.com/2014/02/2014-nfl-draft-player-profiles-virginia-tech-cb-kyle-fuller/

this was in the steelers depot today. nice article on him with some film. a lot of guys are going to be moving around. if they go by the draft boards only we are going to miss a lot of good players. that's more of a generalization.

 

I've watched jones and am not as enamored as you are with him steel, but that's fine. I seemed to want more production out of him and I'm not seeing that. I also like bullough, but man he's put on some weight since he last played. the guy is good and football smart no doubt and like you say as he drops in ranking if he does someone will get a good LB. lavey is in the jones mold but some better production. he's another guy that is going to be a steal for some team. I'd bring any or all of them in. I think bullough could play some OLB in a 3-4. he's got the size. I still haven't heard why he got suspended.

 

I totally saw that, but I must admit....I just don't see him as a first rounder.