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The Walking Dead (no comics spoilers)

Discussion in 'The Watercooler' started by Ray D, Oct 24, 2011.

  1. blountforcetrauma

    blountforcetrauma Well-Known Member

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    LOL. I think I catch your drift.
     
  2. Bleedsteel

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    LOL, They would have to be beer cans!...
    Actually, the tracking, and pudding cup thing was pointed out to me, after I mentioned that to a friend.
    As for tonight`s episode...
    Wow, wonder how much different Tyreese`s reaction would have been to Carol, if he had been told she killed his family?...
    And I think we figured out who was skinning the animals at the prison... That little girl is DANGEROUS.... Thought the baby was dead.
    Can`t wait to see where they are going with the new characters, and "Salvation Station".
    Never did read the comics, so, no expectations/ pre-concieved notions...
    This series still has a lotta life left.
    Wish they hadn`t gotten so popular as to chew up half the hour with commercials, tho...:cool:
     
  3. pjgruden

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    Lizzie makes the Governor look like a Care Bear. I honestly think that if the Walkers didn't show up when they did she would have killed Judith.

    Trying to figure out what happened to Glenn and why he passed out in the prison.
     
  4. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Glenn was still weak from the illness. He was loaded onto the bus when last we saw him. He told Tara he got off the bus to look for Maggie. He's still more or less weak, so I'm assuming he passed out and we see him as he first wakes up.
     
  5. SteelinOhio

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    I'm still wondering if it wasn't her that killed Karen and David in the prison, and Carol just found out and covered for her (and dragged the bodies, etc.). It may turn out that way, but I mentioned it earlier in the season and the more I see how demented Lizzie can be, the more it makes me wonder.

    Edit: I didn't realize that was actually a theory out there on the Internets. Just found an article on it here (dont' read if you don't want to see some of the other"evidence."):

    http://www.wetpaint.com/walking-dead/articles/2013-10-29-season-4-lizzie-kill-karen-carol
     
  6. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    I'm still not sold on that point. It happened too soon after their father died. And she doesn't possess the strength to kill a live human with a knife even if they're sick. I could be wrong. I just don't see it.

    But she did mutilate those animals in the prison, and feed the walkers. I'm sure of that. She's twisted. Not sure if she was trying to silence Judith... or kill her.
     
  7. niterider

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    I was thinking Carol could be covering for Lizzie in that respect as well. But I do remember Carol's speech to her telling lizzie she must be brave enough to kill and so on AFTER Karen and David died. But it is Lizzie and crazier stuff has happened. Kinda funny that for a while I thought Carl was the sociopath; Lizzie makes him look normal.
     
  8. SteelinOhio

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    Unless they were sleeping :shrug:
     
  9. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Perhaps. But at that point in the story, Lizzie was just infatuated with Walkers and feeding them. MAYBE cutting up an animal here or there. She wasn't showing any homicidal tendencies at that point yet. She sure is now...

    (A comics friend said he thinks Lizzie is TV's version of "Ben." I told him to say nothing further. I haven't read them and there's enough differences, but I still don't want to know. But if anyone has read them, you probably know what he means) He also told me that Sgt. Abraham Ford (the guy that drove up on Tara and Glen) rocks. So we have that to look forward to.

    Speaking of Lizzie, is it me? Or did the shoe Beth found look EXACTLY like the shoes Lizzie's sister (can't remember her name) was wearing? We didn't see her lose a shoe - that I can recall - at the tracks. Sooooo... what gives? What's the timeline here?
     
  10. SteelinOhio

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    Like I said before, the thing that made me think that, was how she reacted when Carol taught her about defending herself. That was before the killings happened. I'm not saying I'm sure that's what happened, but the longer it goes on the more I see that makes me wonder. It's just a theory at this point.

    I haven't read any of the comics, so I'm not sure who Ben is. The only other TWD stuff I've kept up with is the PS3 adventure game, which was amazing. I'm looking forward to starting season 2 and seeing what happens to Clementine.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

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    Interesting, hadn't thought that Lizzie may have killed them and Carol is covering up. I'm glad they didn't go as far as killing the baby, if she would have smothered her, that would have been a tad much. The fact that she intended to is powerful enough and yes, have no doubt she was going to kill her if Carol hadn't shown up to save them. The Governor should have had Lizzie as his 2nd in command, would have been unstoppable!

    Was blown away by the prospect of them knowing what caused this whole mess, I don't read the comic so that was news to me. Awesome show!
     
  12. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    The escape from the prison is the last of what I know of the comics. I'm hoping Rick and Carl reunite with Judith soon. I really felt for Tyrese in that last episode.
     
  13. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Totally. That was right up there as one of the top 5 gut wrenching/nail biting moments of that show.
     
  14. SteelinOhio

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    I just got a chance to see this week's episode (we usually watch when it airs on Sunday night, but this has been a busy week).

    I thought it felt a little slow, but it was still enjoyable. I'm not a big fan of the times when they only focus on one or two people/groups while leaving everybody else completely out of the episode, but I guess there are enough characters separated from each other that it would be hard to get them all in one episode right now and keep a coherent story for each group.

    The new Abraham guy is an interesting character. I can't tell if I like him yet or not, but for some reason, he reminds me a little of Ron Perlman.
     
  15. pjgruden

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    I'm rather undecided whether or not I like the split storylines like they've been doing. I THINK I do. I'm curious what the supposed "cure" is that the mullet dude knows about. If there really is a cure. My biggest question so far this season is "WHAT ABOUT CARL'S SHOE?!?!" Okay, not really.

    I'm about half way through Compendium Volume 1 of the comic. Supposedly that ends a bit before the current timing of the show now. It's interesting to see how different the two are from each other, which I think is good honestly.

    One thing I'm highly amused about is all the women who fall all over Daryll must be fuming mad. In three episodes so far this half of the season we've seen him on the screen for maybe 15 minutes if that. He's only popular because he's in the show. If they saw a dude that looked like that coming out of Walmart they'd be disgusted by him. :lolol:
     
  16. Ray D

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    I long ago stopped trying to figure women out.

    That said, Daryll is awesome. But yeah, unkempt, dirty, surly disposition... I doubt he'd get a second glance IRL. What really cracks me up is women raving about his "guns." What guns? Sweetie, I'm not even very big. But if you think those are guns, I have friggin cannons - and your average weekend warrior athlete has thermonuclear bombs! :lolol:

    Again, Daryll is awesome. Easily my favorite character. But lets not get carried away here.

    Mullet dude is a fraud. I don't know anything about it from the comics, but I'm calling it. First off, what "scientist" rocks a "Joe Dirt" mullet??? Second, when Eugene is questioned, he falls back on "it's classified." Classified from who??? There IS NO government anymore. And with so few people left, shouldn't you be telling everyone?

    I smell a ton of bovine excrement around Eugene. Half of me suspects he killed the truck on purpose.

    Abraham seems legit to me at least. He doesn't claim to know anything. He's just trying to do something.
     
  17. SteelinOhio

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    Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying to my wife about him. Just doesn't come across at all as the "guy who has the secret to save the whole world" type.
     
  18. Blast Furnace

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    The Darryl angle isn't hard to figure out at all, women love bad boys, Darryl rocks the bad boy image. And I disagree Ray, you see women every day with guys that make you say "what the hells that about".
     
  19. TerribleTowelFlying

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    Please TWD, no more Darryl/Beth episodes. I may have to drink some moonshine to get through the next one...
     
  20. strummerfan

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    Yeah that episode bored me to tears
     
  21. Ray D

    Ray D Staff Member Mod Team

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    Daryll must have really, REALLY had a bad childhood.

    Doesn't he know that girls wanting to play "I never" with a man is 99.9% of the time a prelude to getting it on?
     
  22. pjgruden

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    I sure as hell thought that's where it was going. Guess I was wrong.

    I didn't mind this episode, but I will agree that it didn't really accomplish much in the overarching storyline of the Walking Dead universe. Moonshine sure is one hell of a first drink though.

    I'd love to see a webisode or something about the country club they were in. On Talking Dead they said there was a class struggle between the employees and the members, and the people that were hanging were the rich members of the club. I'm interested what went down there.
     
  23. SteelinOhio

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    Yeah, I'd love to see that.
     
  24. Blast Furnace

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    Yeah, I had no idea thats what happened there if Talking Dead hadn't said so. I thought the ones hanging did it to themselves, not knowing they would change, which I thought was pretty cool. But now knowing something else went down, would love to know what happened there.

    I agree that was the most boring TWD to date but I still liked it, the show is about relationships, not just zombies munching on people, good character development in that episode.
     
  25. pjgruden

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    You know, I thought a bit more about Daryl and Beth. Two reasons for Daryl not to try anything.

    1) Her post ZA track records with dudes isn't that good. Both of them ended up zombie bait
    2) Daryl is afraid of Carl, since Carl was making moves on her a few seasons ago.

    Also thinking about why they burned the cabin down. I get WHY, and the symbolic reason behind it. That being said, is it really smart to start a raging fire in the night in the middle of the woods? Wouldn't that attract pretty much every walker within a five mile radius?
     

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