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Interesting Article On Mike Evans

Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by TerribleTowelFlying, Feb 7, 2014.

  1. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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  2. numbah58

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    Who does Kyle Crabbs scout for? All I can find is he's listed as a fitness director and something to do with corporate wellness... No ties to any NFL team as far as I can see.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDTaFUbQuNY

    His route running may need work but I saw a skinny post, hitches, deep outs, deep ins, flag route, post routes, back shoulders and go's...

    Having said that, I'd rather go WR in the 2nd round and TE in the 1st..
     
  3. SteelCity_NB

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    I just think Evans fits our passing scheme perfectly. He's tall. He's big. He's strong. He plays with desire. He catches just about everything. He knows how to use his big frame to shield off defenders. He's everything I want. Also, Ben could be on his last stretch with us, I think we need to get him a Mike Evans.

    Here's my favourite stats though, both came this year.

    Against Alabama: 7 catches for 279 yards and 2 TDs
    Against Auburn: 11 catches for 287 yards and 4 TDs

    His 2 best games were against the 2 best teams he faced. If he's there @ #15 you run up to the podium with his name in your hand.

    If he's there and we pass, either the NY Jets or Baltimore Ravens will take him. Personally, I don't want him in Baltimore torching our secondary twice a year ala Josh Gordon.
     
  4. SteelCity_NB

    SteelCity_NB Staff Member Mod Team

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    The article itself has some pretty weak analysis too. I'm not buying what Kyle Crabbs is selling.
     
  5. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    You did a background check on him? :lolol:

    I don't know his experience, but he's a scout, (a respected one from what I know) not necessarily a scout who works for a team. College games, the bowls, combine etc are full of private scouts and scouting companies.
     
  6. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    It didn't seem weak to me. While I don't entirely agree, I think he made some pretty good points. I know everyone's in love with the idea of a big, tall Ferrari in the first round, but it's important to keep an open mind and be able to see a prospect's weaknesses, along with their strengths.
     
  7. numbah58

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    Nope just a quick google search.. ;)
     
  8. SGSteeler

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    Very interesting article TTF, thanks for posting it. I want the Steelers to stay far, far away from Kelvin Benjamin at pick 15 (or 47 for that matter) for many of the same reasons listed in the article about Evans. I do however think that Evans will be a better NFL player than the article suggests he will be. IDK if he is worth pick 15, but I do think he would have value somewhere in the first round.

    I hope the Steelers draft defense in the first anyways... unless of course we can snag Marquis Lee, then I'd be all about it :dancing:
     
  9. TerribleTowelFlying

    TerribleTowelFlying Staff Member Site Admin Mod Team

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    Well, that's all I think PI's use anyway. :lolol:

    Yeah, same here for Benjamin. I lean towards defense in round one, too.
     
  10. JackAttack 5958

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    The combine will tell us a lot. I'm leaning toward defense in the first and maybe the second too. With the underclassmen coming out the draft will be pretty deep at WR. We've done pretty well with receivers in the rounds 3-6. Rounds 1 and 2? Different story.
     
  11. mac daddyo

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    I'm not sure why we don't just pick jace amaro and be done. we have wheaton and AB. moye and brown. we have heath and spaeth. amaro runs routes like a wr. he's a good downfield blocker on DB's. why do we have to pigeon hole him as a TE? he is, but he's also a big WR too. 6-5 260. good hands. good routes. best blocking wr downfield we would have. only at the most a half a step slower than ebron and evans, if that. why not pick him as our tweener. save a spot. can fill as a slot wr or a 3rd TE.:shrug::cool:
     
  12. 58stillers

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    Agree, excellent post.

    i thought his analysis seemed genuine and vague.... But what do you expect as a free online blog?

    (Admittedly a college football ignorer)
     
  13. steelersrule6

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    I disagree with you if you go TE in the 1st and WR in the 2nd then you're ignoring the weakest position on the team CB until the 3rd at the earliest and that's a compensatory pick. If you draft a TE at #15 he has no shot at starting in 2014.
     
  14. numbah58

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    I like the CB's in the mid rounds as much as the CB's in the 1st with Gilbert being the only exception.

    Why do people think that only 1 TE can be on the field at a time?? This confuses me.. :hmmm:
     
  15. Wardismvp

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    I maybe missing something,but why
    does everybody not like our WR corp.?
    Can we give Wheaton,Moye,Brown
    a chance? I fully expect Cotch to be a
    PGH Steeler next year, With Ab,Cotch/Wheaton
    Moye ,Brown, Heath AND THE BIGGEST
    of them all BELL out of the backfield.
    We have a pretty good receiving core.
    I would like a TE behind Heath and get rid
    of all the crap TE's we currently have.
    Because of the poor play of the OL, Heath
    had to stay in alot so the franchise QB
    DOESN'T GET KILLED.
     
  16. Steel_Elvis

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    I haven't fully "scouted" Evans yet, so my love of him at pick 15 comes from watching about 8-10 A&M games as a fan these past 2 years. So, while my own analysis is still subject to change, what I saw on the field in those games was a rare talent who consistently makes plays down the field. He's not one of these bubble screen WRs who pads their stats by catching a bunch of balls near the LOS. He gets open and knows how to help his QB when he gets into trouble (which seems to happen to our QB upon occasion…). Also, I think our #1 weakness on offense the past few years has been red zone scoring. He is an immediate threat in the red zone who needs to be accounted for by the defense, which will help our red zone running game by increasing the threat of play action. He is a flat out mismatch for 95%+ of NFL corners in goal-to-go situations. It's too early in the AM for me to be eloquent about it…. suffice to say that I understand the author's points, but I have to disagree. Evans will be a really good WR if he goes to the right team.
     
  17. Blast Furnace

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    :eek: What do you know, there is a tooth fairy too, I agree with every word.

    I do like Jordan Matthews though, has the kind of heart you want from a player, if he's there in the 2nd, I'd want him. I won't be upset if we stand pat though, for the reasons you gave.
     
  18. contract

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    More importantly, we have a top notch QB. Good QBs don't need great receivers. Our biggest need on offense is LT, and our biggest need overall is defense. DL, ILB, S & CB. If we draft an offensive player in the first three rounds and it isn't a LT, I'm not going to be happy.
     
  19. numbah58

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    Wow, I rarely find a post I completely disagree with but... Winner, winner, chicken dinner. :lolol:
     
  20. steelersrule6

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    :this!:Instead of throwing passes to Sanders they need a big target who poses a mismatch in the redzone. In the Ravens game and Sanders dropped the 2 point conversion.
     
  21. Wardismvp

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    We mostly do not agree on things, but one
    thing I think we both agree on is that we just want the Steelers to be the best they can possibly be. And to me thats all that is important. Everybody thinks I am negative, not really this is my hometown team,the greatest franchise
    on the PLANET. I am far to passionate
    about this team. We can do better, we
    have to outwork these other playoff caliber
    teams to rise to the top where we so deserve.
     
  22. SGSteeler

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    We struggled in the red zone because we ran the ball poorly the better part of the last two seasons. We have plenty of "big" receivers of the football on our current roster in Miller (6'5'') Spaeth (6'7'') Moye (6'5'') and J. Brown (6'3'') and add in the receiving threat of Bell who is 6'1''. The question is his development between the 20's. If he is only going to be used as a red zone target then he is a total waste at #15, because there is no reason to believe he would be a significant enough upgrade from either Brown or Moye in that role to warrant a first round pick. If we feel like he has enough talent and work ethic to develop the skills he needs to improve on to be a consistent #2 in the NFL, then yes by all means take him at 15.

    I just want a WR that can come in and get open, and make plays... He can be 5'10'' or 6'5'' and it wont make one bit of difference to me. I think Evans can be a good WR, but he is slightly overrated due to his size (not nearly as overrated as Benjamin tho). Give me a guy with some speed that runs really good routes :smiley1: that guy is gonna be open all day in the NFL.
     
  23. freakfontana

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    Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin
     
  24. TarheelFlyer

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    While I think his analysis is very weak here, I want to make the following points.

    First, when Vincent Jackson came out of college he had 3 main question marks. 1. Is he a TE or WR? 2. Did he play against high enough talent or was he a man among boys? 3. Does have have enough agility or the ability to come in and out of cuts at the next level? I wonder why people make the comparison....

    Second, what happens to his analysis if Evans comes in and runs in the high 4.3s or low 4.4s? Does anyone think that Wallace had an EASY time getting open simply because he can run fast?

    Third, here are the facts:

    1. While Evans doesn't have great speed, he will have enough.
    2. He has very good hands and fights for the ball.
    3. He had his best games against the toughest opponents, including other guys who are first rounders.
    4. None of this means he will succeed or fail in the NFL. Sweed could run routes, but had no hands and wasn't mentally tough. Boldin probably survives because he knows how to get separation....even if he isn't fast.

    Evans looks like a player to me....but I'm not a scout, so I don't know anything.
     
  25. SGSteeler

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    Yep, I think he would be an excellent choice. Moncreif would be too.
     

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