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I still cant get over that we got hosed

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by petekoutromanos, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. TheSteelHurtin2188

    TheSteelHurtin2188 Well-Known Member

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    If

    Lmao just a little I'm just tired of the complaining we are steelers fans we are better than that.
     
  2. Rush2seven

    Rush2seven Well-Known Member

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    All I know is, I never rooted for KC so hard in my life. Oh well, at least we don't play in Oakland next year.
     
  3. PDXSteelers

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    While it is painful to endure right now, I am trying to shift towards thinking about a good draft this year. If we can get some quality at OT, NT, ILB and d back, than we should have a shot next year.
     
  4. CANTON STEEL

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    I'm ok with this tbh
     
  5. Diamond

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    Actually the bar was set at 9-7, the fans got HOSED alright, for buying tickets to watch these slobs lose 8 games, good teams win their way into the playoffs, they don't sit around in the last game begging for charity....
     
  6. CANTON STEEL

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    Or they struggle early on with major injury issues and pull it all together towards the end of the season only to get jobbed by the refs? :shrug:
     
  7. Diamond

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    They lost 3 games in Nov and Dec when the good teams pull it together, every team had early injuries, no one had more early injuries than the Patriots, they had to put 8 rookies on their roster to fill the gaps and they won 12 games, losers have excuses and winners win games....
     
  8. GravelGod

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    If the Steelers deserved to be in the playoffs they would be in the playoffs, if you want to complain about the missed calls, maybe you should redirect your attention to Tomlin who's lacked the sense of urgency and ability to improve from his teams lackluster last season, carrying over to the preseason and down the stretch run this season.
     
  9. CANTON STEEL

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    IDK, i thought MT did a pretty good job of taking a 0-4 team, that damn near everyone thought wasn't going to even come close to sniffing the playoffs, and turning them around to the point that they got screwed twice in one game that more than likely would have awarded them a spot in the playoffs. Not to mention he's going into the off season on a high note instead of a team like the browns who were ahead of us in our division at one point and went out on a losing streak. :shrug:

    Not a season to brag about but I though MT showed he can turn things around when they look like they are close to falling apart. I think he gets a bum rap most times.
     
  10. Rush2seven

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    I recall after loss #4, many of us wondered if this team could even win a game. Mora's rant was real. Since 0-4, even the losses were tight. Raiders, was pathetic on the first play, offense not so good after that, but winnable. Pats were tied to start the 4th (or close to the start), Ravens give us the Suisham missfire with no Bell injury, Dolphins - to me more frustrating than Brown stepping out of bounds was the play in the other 14:50 of the 4th quarter. Bottom line, this team could have been better than 8-8 even with an 0-4 start. So I agree, Tomlin did a pretty darn good job salvaging that. Interestingly, look at Tom Coughlin, his team was 0-4, finished 7-9 and the chorus for his head is a whole lot louder.
     
  11. takenoprisoners1

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    It's hard not to be upset because there were so MANY chances to make it and then just when everyone starts believing we are going to be in (which took a near miracle and 20 of 21 dominoes to fall), suddenly we're not. I don't believe the officiating was biased -- it was poor, but not biased (if the officials truly wanted San Diego to win, why bother calling holding on them 2 plays before the ill-conceived fake punt). Still, it's tough to argue we didn't have plenty of other chances to make it and I think for the most part the attitude of the team is on par with the positive attitude the Seahwawks had after their gut-wrenching playoff loss last year. That can only bode well for us in 2014.

    The explanation by Dan Blandino (VP of officiating or whatever) of the fake punt is still a little troubling to me. He confirms that Leavy's group called the runner down prior to the fumble. I get that was the outcome in the end, but after rewatching the play, I think it so fooled everyone (even the announcer -- was it Albert? only said 'watch out' twice during the play. There was no other commentary until the Chiefs runner was at the 5 yard-line -- "This isn't going to count") that they didn't know WHAT to call. I still never hear a whistle during the entire play nor does an official raise his arm as if to mark the ball with the play dead. Then, I think they were surprised that the Chiefs came away with the ball and they had to sort something ELSE out. The official closest to the play, knowing that the play had NOT been stopped, high-tails it back to the sidelines, playing the fumble while other officials start gathering around completely clueless. Blandino says replay should have intervened on the spot of the ball when the play ended, but he misses the point (either ignorantly or deliberately). How could replay intervene when the play was called dead retroactively when the Chiefs player was about to score? And then the complete lack of explanation from Leavy -- only to say "The Chargers reached the line to gain. First down!" Again, I don't call bias there. I call, "Oh crap, did you see what just happened. Uh....I think he was down...or something....and uh.... I guess if we give him the first down, it would be the path of least resistance in terms of determining the outcome of tha game" I kind of wish Blandino had said more about the incredibly poor way the whole situation was handled, notwithstanding the fact that the call was wrong (although I still think SD would have retained possession on a review with the helmet coming off). That stuff with officials drives me nuts even when the Steelers have nothing on the line (so much more, when they do).
     
  12. Coastal Steeler

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    BTW Levy is the SCUMBAG who apologized to Seattle for calling holding on them when MP said it was holding and had no Idea why Levy said that. I believe he (Levy)knew if SD won Pittsburgh would not get a playoff birth and that influenced all three bad calls he made or didn't make. Hope his D**k falls off tonight

    Edit, SD also did not make the line of gain
     
  13. GravelGod

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    The point everyone seems that they don't want to really discuss is the fact this team under Tomlin went 8-8 then 0for in the preseason starting 0-4 in the regular season. If Tomlin is this gods gift to the NFL and seems to escape any accountability with the media and fans, why did we really need a turn a round anyway? Again, Tomlin's Steelers can't beat those teams that we should win against, are constantly inconstant on one side of the ball or the other. The light should of been on at the end of last season when Tomlin & Co made their comments about how they were going to come into this season with a new attitude, not gonna play like last year etc. Tomlin is not a problem solver, only a cheerleader and front man for the Steelers.
     
  14. JackAttack 5958

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    This was an enigmatic season for Tomlin. You're right, Canton. Tomlin does deserve a lot of credit for keeping the team together after a terrible start. Speaking of the terrible start, Tomlin also deserves a lot of the blame for said terrible start. Our 0 for the preseason and 0-4 start is primarily on his shoulders and it's inexcusable to lose to the Titans, Vikings, Raiders and MIAMI DOLPHINS IN A PITTSBURGH SNOWSTORM! How many games this season, and the last couple of seasons for that matter, have we penciled in as a W before the season that actually turned out the be an L? Too many! Tomlin deserves an opportunity to turn the ship around, but he's responsible for getting the ship in troubled waters to begin with!
     
  15. Blast Furnace

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    I put it on personell and a transition period with injuries sprinkled in myself but that's just me.
     
  16. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I pretty much agree.

    If you go back and read Labriola's piece before the season started (how many times can I mention this article?) on steelers.com, he pretty much calls it there.

    Also agree with takenoprisoners about the frustration for all the times we could have won it. But this is how we are now - one or two plays can make a game, and if the cards fall to us, we go 12-4, and if they don't, we go 8-8. This is not new for this season. It's not new for the past decade. Go back and watch our superbowl seasons, and see how many calls/drops/errors go our way, as well as the good play by us. Deljzc wrote a great post about this on the old board... should have really saved it to file for just such occasions.
     
  17. Diamond

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    The Packers set a league record with 15 players on IR the year they beat us in the Superbowl, teams move on with injuries and compete at a high level, that's a proven fact, we led the league in turnovers the first 4 games of the season, that had nothing to do with injuries, but it had a lot to do with a lack of discipline and focus. No excuses, this team didn't play up to expectations, and they really didn't seem to care about it either, they didn't deserve to be in the playoffs, and I'm glad they didn't get in, maybe this lesson will motivate these lazy coaches and players to improve themselves on the field and play with the desire and hunger it takes to win their way into the playoffs next year...
     
  18. JackAttack 5958

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    But it goes back to winning the games you're supposed to win. When you have Ben Roethlisberger as your quarterback you're not supposed to lose to teams with quarterbacks like Matt Cassell, Terelle Pryor, Jake Locker, Ryan Tannehill and ( insert mediocre quarterback here). In the NFL, it's about the quarterback and Tomlin has wasted a couple of Ben's prime years losing to teams that they should have beaten. How many times do quarterbacks like Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers lose to teams with inferior quarterbacks? I understand that injuries play into into it but every team has to deal with those. The biggest problem is lack of preparation and underperformance. We can't continue to lose games to inferior opponents and expect to be competing for Super Bowls, which is what the Pittsburgh Steelers are all about!
     
  19. SteelerGlenn

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    Considering that a lot of people feel these guys are the top quarterbacks in the league, they lose quite a few to inferior QB's. Brady had four losses, Manning Three, Breese had five and I'm not sure which games lost were ones Rodgers played in.
    This whole winning games you're supposed to win is somewhat of a silly statement considering we were an 8-8 team last year. If we're sitting at 7-1 and lose to the Raiders then yes we were supposed to win that game, but when you start 0-4 what games can you really say you're supposed to win? We weren't that good early on, a case could be made that the games we did win we weren't supposed to win?
     
  20. JackAttack 5958

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    Glenn, all things being equal BEN ROETHLISBERGER IS SUPPOSED TO BEAT TERRELLE PRYOR, PERIOD! I don't think the Raiders talent was better than the Steelers talent, do you? Spin it any way you want, friend, and call it silly, but the fact is we too often lose games we should win!
     
  21. SteelerGlenn

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    If Ben and Pryor were playing one on one Basketball maybe, but were talking about a team game with 50 other guys involved!
     
  22. JackAttack 5958

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    So that goes back to my question. Do you think the Raiders talent is better than the Steelers talent? If the talent is relatively equal the better quarterback should win the game. Why is it so hard for you to admit that the Steelers have lost way too many games over the last couple of seasons that they should have won? I'm not just talking from a fan's perspective either. They've lost games to inferior teams in games that they were favored to win. Ben is in the prime of his career and two consecutive 8-8 seasons preceded by the Tebowing in Denver is a WASTE!
     
  23. Blast Furnace

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    Yep, not called a game of inches for nothing. Sometimes you get the bounce and sometimes you don't.
     
  24. santeesteel

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    Following this logic then, Dalton is a better QB than Brady because the Bengals beat the Pats, right?
     
  25. JackAttack 5958

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    :facepalm: Look, I realize that at times teams lose games they should win. Inferior quarterbacks come out on the winning side against better quarterbacks on occasion. But the point I'm trying to make is that it has happened FAR TOO OFTEN with Ben over the last couple of seasons. Would you agree with that? Brady generally wins games he is supposed to win against inferior quarterbacks as is evidenced by the fact that the Patriots have had 13 CONSECUTIVE WINNING SEASONS! Him losing to an inferior quarterback is the exception and not the rule. Unfortunately, in Ben's case, it has become a far too common occurrence over the last three years.
     

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