New footage on Tomlins Faux Paus

I was undecided about whether or not there was intent on tomlins part to obstruct play until I saw this footage.

He indeed looked very much like he was trying to help our ST coverage out lol

http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.co...ck-punt-return-sideline-step-nfl-fine-penalty

Bman

 

I dont think there is any doubt thats what his intention was. Everyone could see it except, apparently, the ref. I think if he wasnt shown laughing (presumably about the incident), this wouldnt seem as bad as it does- at least to me anyway.

 

pretty evident

 

Painfully. I could see if his vision of the JT was being blocked by someone and he moved over to get a better view but there was no reason for him to move closer to the field.

 

when there will be out the sanction by the league ?

 

Changes nothing for me. It doesn't show much we haven't already seen. What it does show is him standing straight as a statue with his legs pressed tightly together. It just doesn't seem like a natural way to stand if he was in fact simply trying to watch the play. Who stands like that?

I wish he'd just come out and say he made a stupid mistake and the passion for the game got the better of him for a split second. Apologize and this can then go away.

 

I think there was intent. I would like to look back and see where he usually positions himself during returns. Is this something that has been missed during other returns because he wasn't positioned right to pull this stupid stunt off?

 

Looks like he was getting out of the way of the ref sprinting up on his left.
then he just gets confused and steps onto the field.

I bet watching the screen was like looking in a mirror.

I don't think he did it on purpose.
Did he really know that his coverage team would fail?

If so that's more of an issue.

 

It doesn't change my mind that dwelling on this will add anything constructive to the discussions on how to beat Miami.

 

Looks pretty damning to me and I could understand if this is considered proof that it was intentional.

I'm grasping at straws here trying to defend him that:

1) He side-stepped to "look around" the player in front of him who was in the grey sweatshirt that was also in the white out of bounds line, but eventually moved into the bench area, and
2) From when he turned and looked to see where Jacoby Jones was, it took all of three full-speed steps (1 1/2 stride) for Jacoby to blast past him. We're talking hundreths of a second here, a short enough span of time that it would plausibly cause Tomlin to be surprised from the point when he realized while watching the jumbotron that he could be in the way and turning his head to look to the point when Jacoby runs past.

Those two faint, desperate attempts to justify his behavior, combined with no previous offenses, is enough for me to still beleive he didn't attempt to influence the play.

However, I now firmly believe that he new exactly where he was in relation to the field, since he stepped the perfect distance to the side to place him exactly one inch off the field of play; probably in his mind, at the moment, he thought was ok. Fine him/penalize him for standing in the white as he shouldn't have been there, but don't discipline him (or the team) for a perceived act of interfereing with the play, which cannot be proven unless he admits it. Should be the difference between a $25,000 fine for Tomlin or a $100k+ fine for him and a forfeiture of a draft pick for the team.

 

Who me ? lol.. Yup. I think he did it intentionally now where before I was giving him the benefit of the doubt. I know some people think this is terrible . Don't get me wrong its not good and its unsportsman but
I don't think he deserves capital punishment and it's no worse then faking like your going to punch a punt/kick returner lol

Bman

 

Why didn't the referee that had to run into the players flag Tomlin or yell out before the play arrived?

 

yes ..i say 200k and 3 games suspension

 

This doesn't change much for me.

I still think it's possible he was looking at the jumbotron and moving to get a better view, or maybe seeing himself in a mirrored way and thought he was stepping off the field...

I don't really know. Whether the intent was to cheat or not I think he'll be punished the same, so I'm not sure it really matters. I expect a stiff fine, and maybe a 1 game suspension. Taking away a pick would be too much in my opinion.

 

Hell no. It's done and over fine him and let's move on to the next game already.

 

I agree, this has been overblown. Had he not moved at all, it wouldn't even be mentioned. His smirk proves nothing. He knew he was wrong, is there a different smirk for "he knew he was intentionally wrong? versus "he knew he was wrong"? If anything, if you are trying to be intentional, you put on your game face and act surprised by the whole thing (the whole, everybody is innocent in jail routine).

 

Exactly, time to focus on beating Miami

 

TOMLIN SHOULD BE FIRED !!!

this is nothing but a huge distraction right now and will ultimately cause us to lose this sunday

 

doesnt change my mind
I think he is innocent