Could the Steelers lose a late round draft pick due to Sidelinegate?

who is this Cower you speak of?

 

He was the coach after Chuck Knoll.

 

Perhaps not. I think people are just pointing out that there seems to be a double standard: that Cowher didn't catch nearly the flak that Tomlin is catching. I don't think Cowher was fined or anything over that incident. So, for whatever reason, the NFL is making a bigger deal out of this than it should be. \

We also have to remember that Cowher's incident took place in 1997, when the internet was in its infancy. We still didn't have the 24/7 media blitz we have today. There was no You Tube, no Facebook, no fan blogs.

 

I am embarrassed that he stooped to the level that he did.

 

Times have changed. Joe Greene once kicked a guy in the nuts and spit in his face. That was tolerated then, but he would be suspended for that today. What Cowher did has no bearing on this whatsoever. He didn't catch flack? So what? That was also before social media and the internet, where most of the outrage comes from.

If Cowher did that today, he'd catch just as much flack as Tomlin is.

 

I would be surprised to see a draft pick as part of the penalty. That is normally reserved for offenses deemed "institutional" (ie spygate and the Saint bounty thing). A six figure fine and perhaps a suspension would be the most likely outcome in my uninformed opinion.

 

Perhaps. But point is, he wasn't fined or suspended. And the Steelers weren't faced with losing a draft pick either.

 

things have changed a ton since then, an absolute ton, not just in football but in every pro sport. Things that were tolerated 10-15 years ago are absolutely not tolerated now. I wasn't embarrassed by Cowher then because I was like 15 years old for christ sakes. I don't even remember it, the only reason I know about it is due to it being talked about on here.

What Cowher did has no bearing on this whatsoever and I have no idea why you keep bringing it up. People used to drink and drive casually 15 years ago but today it's almost an automatic prison sentence. Do you really think a judge is going to go easy on someone for drinking and driving just because they claim that people used to do it 15 years ago without penalty?

The two have nothing to do with each other at all. If Cowher did that today, he'd be catching flack. You act like it's a small group of tomlin haters that are making this a big deal. Tomlin seems to be well liked and well respected around the league and in the media, but the media and the NFL are making this a big deal. It's far from just a few on this site.

 

So what? Joe Greene wasn't suspended for kicking a guy in the nuts either, does that mean it's okay to do that today? The two actions have nothing to do with each other. Just because a guy wasn't punished for something 15 years ago doesn't make it okay to do that same act today.

The Boston Bruins once climbed into the stands at Madison Square Gardens and began fighting with fans. If that happened today, players would be looking at 1 year bans minimum and possible lifetime bans, as well as criminal charges and civil lawsuits against them, the team and the league.

 

I never said he disgraced the organization. I just said that I'm disgusted with him. And who says I wasn't outraged by Cohwers actions. You assume too much. Not really sure why my feelings for Tomlin on this matter are so troubling to you? I never said to fire the guy or anything else along those lines. Just disappointed, just let me have that for now.

 

This has everything to do with things not being tolerated now that were tolerated then. If Tomlin did this 20 years ago it would have been laughed off. If Cowher did it today he would have been crucified. It's ridiculous that you can't see how perceptions and tolerance changes with time.

 

this is all just par for the course these last two years. yea, why not. LOL

 

Who gives a crap about what Cowher did? That was years ago and has absolutely NO bearing on now. I dont even remember if I was pissed about Cowher but that doesnt mean I cant be pissed about what Tomlin did.

 

I will say that watching it at speed does make it seem more natural. In slow-mo it looks like a deliberate stomp to the right. I still think that he knew exactly what he was doing standing there.

 

I think so too, but I still hold out hope that it wasn't malicious.

 

Yes, it can be seen as red herring, but when the discussion is losing draft pick, then you have to start looking at past incidents and precedence.

When looking at the appropriateness of a possible fine/draft pick loss, you have to look for similar incidents. other than the Jets planned and systematic antics (which caused injury), what other incidents have been similar? Obviously it was the Jets again last week, but it is appropriate to look at the Steelers organization for past incidents. That just happens to be Cowher on this one.

 

So that when do you think this is? Tomlin appears to be very well respected in the media and in the league. Why do you think there's outrage about this? Do you think it's personal against Tomlin? Why would the media or the league take a stand against Tomlin specifically and not Cowher? It seems like you think it's personal, but that makes no sense considering Tomlin is well respected.

We are in the age of overreacting to everything. That is what society does these days. We make a big deal out of everything, justified or not. That is what is happening and that is why there is no doubt in my mind that Cowher would be crucified if he did this today. The internet has changed how society views pretty much everything. Suddenly everyone has a voice, rather than just 2 sportscasters and a newspaper columnist.

 

The draft pick thing is just the media trying to make revenue. Nobody in the league's office has said the loss of draft picks is being considered