Ben Could Make Concessions On Current Contract

half of the flacco's salary should be give to the broncos safety

 

2014 they say 14 million just like brady's then jump right to 2016 at 29m
what's up with 2015 assume it's in between?

 

LUCKy Charms....

 

How do they not foresee these hits and just keep them at a minimum? If we extend Ben and his hit is a lot later on though wouldn't the damage to the team only be dependent upon what premiere talent we have at the time? I mean I don't foresee Troy still playing 5 years from now and Woodley might be gone be then and Ike certainly will. Who do you foresee at this point demanding a big contract down the road. I could see AB still being here and making good money and maybe if Bell pans out he will too.

 

COCO CRISP ooops that's baseball lol


Geno "pizza" Smith all dough that's a stretch

 

I would love to see the day that one of these established top tier guys said.... "hey it's ok, I've made enough money for my kids to live to be ....", let's just sign a $5 mill / yr contract and use the rest to surround me with better players.

Inevitably, these monster contracts end up forcing the tough decisions to cut guys down the road.

Honestly, it'll never happen, but it's just my day dream that there are other good people out there. Heck, I take a low (reasonable) salary so that I can employ more good people around me, and I'm no where near the professional athlete's wage scale.

 

LOL! How about White Cassell???

 

I've thought this exact thing. If you could get a bunch of modest pros together you could really build a dynasty pretty easy. I think the cap is what ended dynasties for the most part. Which is probably a good thing because if the NFL was like baseball it would just be cheapened. It's so lame that you can pretty much buy a World Series. I wouldn't want football to ever be that way. I guess it could've been that way back in the day but guys didn't make these insane amounts of money so teams could be really stacked and still be profitable. The Steel Curtain would've probably lasted about 2 seasons in today's NFL.

 

yummy
Rodgers that. Krystal's clear.

Headed out to RYAN'S (too easy)
must get a cookbook a B Dalton's then find some CUTLERy.
bought a dining room table from BRADFORDS

 

I'd eat bens cap hit next year and his 12 mil salary. let's get this off the books while we can. troy, ike,foote, foster,suisham,gradkowski would be my choices this year to cut money. then hit those half mil deals like Curtis brown and 800,000 + from gilbert. after we get rid of colons 4 mil in dead money after next year, they can work on cutting Woodley's useless butt loose, and split it in two years.

ben's actually goes down in 2015. not much but it does go down. I'm all for eating it up now and we won't have to worry about it in 2016. we can franchise ben and he will still get his money but just not above everyone else for a 34 year old qb.

I'd rather eat it now while ben is useful to us. we just don't know how he will be in 2016 and it leaves the ball in the steelers hands instead of a lot of money being spent on a guy that may not be as good by then. who knows?

we would just be betting that he's going to be franchise like by then if we do it now. why not wait and then make the decision and we would be in the drivers seat at that point.

 

I got myself a new Wilson volleyball. I will volley it high in to the sky and it will soar like a Griffin.

 

You would cut Suisham? I would cut Foote and Foster and Grad from that list. I say Ike and Troy stay. I would rather have Troy than Ike though if I had to choose.

 

must cut SuisHam,still mad for him slicing those two in Oakland.
it's bananas, Foster could back up Pouncey at guard because neither deserve much money re-sign Velasco

 

I'm not sure they cut either but get several millions from their salary's in pay cuts. yes I could see us with a new kicker to free up money. also LS and punter. colon's dead money is haunting them next year. hopefully they have learned something from these type of contracts. I think they may visit spence and pouncey's also. pouncey will count about 4.5 mil. towards the cap. can they sign velasco cheaper? depends how he comes out of this knee trouble. he's still got bad ankles. he is only signed for one more year. will it be at guard or center? none of these will be easy, but may have to be done. they may even consider a trade with pouncey. he would have some value I would think. tough call though.

 

Nobody should bring up Brady taking a cut in pay, he is on a different level. The guy is married to a woman who triples his salary when only working for 3 months, every picture of his children is worth $250,00 or more so he can afford to take less. I don't blame these players for getting all they can, I just saw a Ray Lucas article taken from GQ and he said the NFL doesn't allow you to keep your medical insurance when you retire and with all the pre-existing conditions they have they can't get any health insurance so they need to make as much as they can while their bodies can take the punishment, each game runs the risk of career ending injury. For Ben, with the oline that is put in front of him he is lucky to not yet have an injury that ends his playing days and the only way I see him go is if some team pays him a wad of money and promises to put a stellar oline in front of him for the rest of his career.

 

yes

 

Franchising Ben would cost over $20M THIS year. I can only imagine that it would be even higher in 2 years.

 

if we keep pushing the money towards that time and he's outplayed his body's usefulness to us, we would be getting very little for our dollars. if we franchise him then, and he's still got game, he's worth top 5 averaged money. or we could just sign him to a cap friendly contract at that time. we won't lose him either way if they still want him, but get's this current one off the books.

 

I can understand those wanting to get rid of Gradkowski to save money. My question is who are you going to get to replace him? If you are going to draft someone to replace him or Jones that's fine too, what round??

 

it depends on who's available and how the rest of the season goes and how the draft plays out and comp picks if any. if we trade down early in the draft and McCarron is sitting there in the 2nd with multiple picks or would somehow slip to 3, I'd snatch him in a second.

of course jones would still be here. this is why the 4th round pick from last year was a good one. he's got the rookie year out of his way now.

 

Ok, I was having a disconnect between what I was reading in this thread vs what I wasn't seeing the early mocks in the draft section.

IMO about the the draft would be the only way to replace Grads and actually save any significant amount of money.

 

he's really not done much in the league that he couldn't be replaced fairly easily. I said in the draft forum that I liked carr to but he's since gone to the top of the boards. there are even some later guys as a 3rd qb with upside. I said last year if landry is only as good as gradkowski it was worth a 4th. I think he'll be much better. it doesn't have to mean pro bowler, just a good young backup that has upside still, and is cheaper. he can bring everything grad has plus.

we took a shot on a kid from Miami of OH. and saw he could play some when the starter went down. we will never know until then with anyone else either. all we know is grad isn't going to be it. nor Charlie or lefty.

 

not that we save a lot on grads and i think we have too much of a needs to draft a qb high when we have ben and we still have to see what jones can do it . we need to draft starters not backups

 

I'd rather see us the cut David Johnsons, Matt Spaeths, and Larry Footes (if he can't get back to his normal self) of the world, as they are injury prone in my eyes, rather than trying to save a few dollars cutting a healthy player. Especially when our track record for finding healthy replacements hasn't been all that great.