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Eating Crow this Morning

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by HawkeyeJames, Sep 9, 2013.

  1. HawkeyeJames

    HawkeyeJames Well-Known Member

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    Well I was a big supporter of the 4 preseason losses meant nothing and we will right the ship once they mean something. I couldn't have been more wrong. I was hoping that my enternal optismism would be correct. Right now this team looks bad. No direction in terms of leadership, no direction in terms of organization, bad game plans and the injuries couldn't get much worse, after one game. After watching the game yesterday I really have no optimism left for the season. I guess the hope is things will get better but on the road vs. Cincy, at home against a good Bears team and on the road in London does not look good for a team that basically was gifted their points yesterday.

    What a bad way to start the season. But I will keep watching and cheering and hoping that things get better this year. But I am real interested to see how this plays out. It could get very ugly very quickly. And if they do what do the Rooney's do?

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  2. FeartheBeard

    FeartheBeard Well-Known Member

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    Well, I was hoping, too, that preseason was not an indicator of what we would bring week one. I was hoping they were just playing a vanilla, watered down version of our plan so that we didnt give all of our secrets away. I was hoping but I wasnt convinced- with good reason it turns out.
     
  3. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    If nothing changes by the end of the season you will be eating crow, myself as well, but not yet. 1 game does not a season make.

    It was a bad loss, plenty of time to get things right. If we look like this in week 4, my resolve will start to falter.
     
  4. FeartheBeard

    FeartheBeard Well-Known Member

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    You are right. As much as I dont want to, I need to still have a little faith. Its going to be hard to get excited about MNF next week, but I will do it.
     
  5. strummerfan

    strummerfan Well-Known Member

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    I'm not ready to throw in the towel on the season, but my hopes aren't high. In reality they weren't very high to begin with. Wins and losses in preseason don't mean anything unless your losing by not playing fundamentally sound football. Unfortunately that's exactly what we saw. This team can't seem to block to save their lives and it doesn't matter if it's for the run or pass. I honestly have no idea what it will take to fix it either. We've tried multiple OL coaches, 2 OC, and lord knows how many different combinations of offensive linemen. I almost want them to draft nothing but OL in the 2014 draft and keep the best 8. Maybe that way we can put together a solid unit between the 8 we have and 7-10 fresh faces.
     
  6. FeartheBeard

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    I think that is why this is so frustrating. Its not just ONE thing. Its about 10 and I dont know where to start. Lucky for me I am not getting paid to make that decision, but its just a mess.
     
  7. HawkeyeJames

    HawkeyeJames Well-Known Member

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    As I said to a good friend of mine last night when we were discussing this issue it is like trying to stick a finger in the Hoover Dam to stop the leak. Maybe it is just one REALLY BAD BAD week... I HOPE!!!
     
  8. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    When do the Rooneys start looking at the Head Coach as the problem? Ultimately, it's his responsibility to put all the ingredients together to produce a great meal. If we've been through multiple OL coaches, OCs, special teams coaches and other assistant coaches all under the same HC, where does the problem lie?
     
  9. HawkeyeJames

    HawkeyeJames Well-Known Member

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    If it does not get turned around this season, I hope they look long and hard at all aspects of the organization and what can be done better including the HC.
     
  10. HinesWardHOF

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    this team was as flat as twiggys ass (if u dont knw who she is google twiggy) .. and that was for our home opener.. how flat do you think we will be next week on MNF at cincinnati.. good thing is we will have 20,000 of the 65,000 seats (maybe more since bengal fans suck) .. so it will be like a semi home game.... but to me this team has no heart.. no leadership... 3 starters hurt in the first week... shoud have scored 0 points had the titans not let us score at the end.. we were given 2 points and spotted the ball in the opening minutes and still couldnt score.. jsut a poorly coached.. poorly motivated offense... DL had his boys ready to play as always.. ... time for me to eat crow.. i praised redman .. love the guy but he looks liek dwyer fumbling sunday.. i still see the steelrs 5-11 for the season.. that has not changed...

    HINES
     
  11. FeartheBeard

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    I said this to someone this morning....on any other team and with any other franchise, the HC is the first to go. You almost HAVE to look at Tomlin at this point. However, as someone else said in another thread, I am confused about what Tomlin's role IS. Would getting rid of him solve the problem? I have NO idea.
     
  12. JackAttack 5958

    JackAttack 5958 Well-Known Member

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    And when your resolve starts to falter, BF, there's no hope for the rest of us.:noose:
     
  13. Wreck

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    If this season doesn't change from last season, then I am a firm believer that you chance the HC. Ultimately, it has to come down to Tomlin. He inherited a hot ball of fire SB team, and he got a win out of them. Firmly because I believe he still had all the leadership and focus from a well built team put in his lap.

    After that year, people left the team \ retired, etc. New great talent came in. EXCELLENT talent, and Tomlin has shown he doesn't know what he's really doing.

    My 2 cents.
     
  14. HinesWardHOF

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    initially tomlin was smart enough to get out fo the way... let BA and DL run the D and O and the leaers on the team win a SB... all he had to do was grin and say his BS at the press conferences and stay the hell out of the way of the people that knew what they were doing... he still does that.. DL still kows what hes doing.. thus the D is always top rated.. but the O sucks.. TH is terrible .. been fired more times than its snowed in florida.. why? because he is a hot heated a hole that is f ing clueless.. problem is tomlin is also clueless .. hes a D guy .. DL runs the D and tomlin has no clue on O.. he may as well be managing a baseball team than a team with O problems... thanks mike for staying out fo the way till the leaders on the team all left..

    HINES
     
  15. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Because the clue is in what Fearthebeard said. It's not one thing, it's ten (or more).
     
  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    LOL, you got that right Jack! Lets just all hope my faith is well placed :praying:
     
  17. NashvilleCat

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    I think there would be much more room for optimism if these weren't problems that we've had for several years now.

    1. A poor quality, often injured offensive line
    2. Turnovers on offense
    3. Difficulty taking the ball away (a bounce here or there yesterday might have given us one)
    4. No running game
    5. Offense failing in the red zone
    6. Penalties on special teams
    7. Disappearing offense in the second half leaving the defense on the field too long (they didn't even show up in the first half yesterday)
    8. Failure to hammer opponents early and then put them away - a touchdown on that first drive and a 9-0 lead might have changed the tone of the game
    9. Flat, undisciplined play

    I expect more of the same along the way. We'll win some based on the talent of a few of our guys. Ben will be a physical wreck by the end of the season. I also expect that the defense will be top 7 and somehow it will be their fault we're losing.

    But, I'll still watch and still wear my Steeler stuff here in Nashville.
     
  18. virginiasteelerfan

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    first thing they need to do is let tomlin hire his own staff and run the type of system he wants to run. That way in a couple years they'll know if they need a HC. second thing they need to do is take a hard look at the scouting department, and Colbert. neither has done much to replace the talent that's left. How do you loose a Wallace yet make no attempt to replace him? how do you go into a season without either a pro-bowl caliber receiver or RB?
     
  19. Concussion

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    This board was all about the Rooney's hiring Todd Haley over Mike Tomlin's head. (I don't know if that is true.) Now you think they will fire Tomlin because of their bad decision. I think, if anything, I think that they will get rid of Haley at the end of his contract and give control back to Tomlin. When you are hired by the boss's boss, you have free reign but enough rope to hang yourself.
     
  20. Rush2seven

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    optimism?

    the Steelers are tied for first place.
     
  21. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Half about, I wasn't one of them. But, I said at the time of the hiring he'd need 2 years, so far he's not doing anything to sway me from my reservations to hire him.
     
  22. ThrowToHeath

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    And to think, we were that poor on offense yesterday WITHOUT many drive killing penalties. Insert the penalties which are bound to happen, and molasses will be faster moving the ball than the offense.
     
  23. Concussion

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    Yes, half about. I don't know the length of his contract and agree that you should give an OC two years. But I would expect if we don't start getting some 100 yard rushers, his contract won't be renewed. He was hired to bring back Steeler football and has so far failed. In his defense, there have been OL injuries and no RB stepping up to take the job, but he has not been able to be creative enough or adapt the offense to take advantage of his personnel to get anything going.
     
  24. shadowmaker

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    I know most, if not all of you have seen this video. But watch it again, turn the volume off if you want. Look at their faces. All of them have a 'we re going to kick your ass and dont give a **** about your name' look on their face. Going on skool here but they had the 'eye of the tiger'. And to top it all off, they were enjoying dominating their opponent.

    That look is gone. Sorry actually its this one I was referring too but the one below is good too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csVUkpZpzpg

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH0iT6YUjeU
     

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