Throwing over the middle of the field

We do have a sad face emoji. I used it quite often... because Steelers under Tomlin made me sad.

 

Fact: Mike Tomlin was an incredible regular season coach, never having a losing record.

Fact: Mike Tomlin brought Steelers fans 2 Super Bowl appearances with 1 win.

Fact: Mike Tomlin got the absolute most out of subpar QB play at times.

Fact: Mike Tomlin, his staff and this organization have been unable to get the team back to the Super Bowl since 2010.

Fact: Mike Tomlin and Art II both played a part in the Matt Canada debacle.

Fact: Mike Tomlin, his staff and this entire organization have been unable to find and develop Ben's replacement.

Those are facts, not feelings. I'm not interested in discussing who gets the lion's share of blame for any one of these things, that has been discussed ad nauseam. Clearly there are those members on here who like to blame Tomlin for everything. That's ridiculous. However, there are also those of you who seem to find no fault at all with the man which is equally ludicrous.
I feel Tomlin was an incredible regular season coach but for whatever reason, couldn't take the team to the next level in the playoffs late in his career. I'm thankful he was the coach for the Steelers but also excited for a new regime. New doesn't necessarily mean better and I'm prepared for that but I'm not going crazy over all things McCarthy until he shows us a helluva lot more.

 

I think emojii may not have been the correct word. I meant the reaction icon (e.g. like / dislike / agree / disagree / hilarious / winner / etc...)

When I see comments like that I often think to hit the dislike button...because I dislike that all politicians are filthy liars. But it's not the comment I dislike, it's the fact that it's true that I dislike.

 

maybe they wouldve been better able to hide their deficiencies. Those guys were all game managers, more or less.

 

I think all of these guys except Mitch were 0.500 or better with the Steelers.

Hard to imagine them doing better elsewhere IMO.

Hiding the deficiencies of bad QBs is exactly what that system was designed to do.

Sean Payton is often heralded as a very good coach. Wilson went 11-19 with him. And 6-5 with us. [ETA: 43 pointed out below that I messed up here. Payton was only his coach in the 2nd year with Denver. So he was 7-8 with Payton. And 4-11 with the mix of coaches they had the year before...]

Fields was 10-28 in CHI and 2-7 in NYJ. 4-2 with us.

Duck probably shouldn't have been in the NFL and was 3-3 with us.

Kenny gets routinely outplayed by QB 3s. 14-10 with the Steelers (but he is 2-1 away from the Steelers...so basically the same).

Again, Mitch is the outlier here. He was 29-21 in CHI before losing his starting job and going to be a backup who never started in Buffalo. Then he was 2-5 with us. And hasn't had a start since. Basically couldn't win with us because he was an INT machine even our our straight jacket of a system.

 

Sean Payton was not the head coach of the broncos in 2022(It was Hackett),so in 2023,Wilson was 7-8 under Payton and it was with a defense who was bottom 6 in yards and PPG

 

Thanks for catching my mistake 43!

Still below 500, but not as bad as lumping the two years together.

I'll edit the previous post.

 

From what i read, i didnt follow Bears games, the o line pass blocking proficiency went down and Mitch basically couldnt handle the added pressure. He never recovered that initial confidence he had in chicago.


As far as the steelers it was short one read passes or safer passes to the sidelines and reliance on the defense particularly TJ’s game wrecking ability. It was an offense never meant to or able to carry the team. Score just enough and let the defense do the rest. We squeaked by doing this and having some luck with key injuries to division rivals. When TJ went down our winning percentage went down pretty sharply i believe. We were hammered in the opening rounds of the playoffs when we got there.

TJ is now past his prime and i think our owners and gm recognize we need a more proficient offense.

when i say better able to mask a Qb’s deficiencies maybe have more creative play calling, less predictable, like the misdirection play near the goal line by loading up one side and make a safe pass in the other direction, or more quick slant routes. Those are routine timing plays most Qbs can make with practice. Old Flacco killed us with those passes last year. Hiring Canada certainly didnt help.