My AFC North Rankings

No coach with any head coaching credibility would take the Browns job, it's guaranteed to be a black mark on their career because they will not overcome the ownership nightmare and the culture.

 

The betting sites love the Ravens I would take the under of 11.5 wins.

 

My top team for the over in Vegas win projections is the Steelers, my top team for the under is the Ravens. I think Ben is right when he said that the window is closing on the Ravens and LJ's production is going to start a downhill slide.

 

11.5 wins is very high but not impossible if Lamar stay healthy and their defense improve under their new coach.They won 13 games in 2023 and 12 in 2024,so they have done that before

The bengals have a higher ceilling that the steelers because of the offense...They just need their defense to be average and make some stop at the right time.Their floor is also lower that the steelers if their defense is awful again

 

We hear this every year about the Steelers are the third best team in the division, but they have hit the over in wins the last five years I think it is.

 

Bengals will be better than Steelers if Burrow doesn't get hurt.

This is common logic.

 

I pick the over in each year since at least 2022(I am less sure about this year but I think I will pick the over again),I predict 10 wins in 2022,11 in 2023 and 9-8 in the last 2 years,so I was off by one win each year but I was right for the over because it was like 8.5 everytime

For the 3rd place,they were 3rd in 2022 and 2023 and for 2024 and 2025,the bengals was a massive disappointment in both year ,same for the ravens last season.Maybe it will happens again but if this is not the case,it will be much harder to win the north again

 

I'm debating on taking the over for the Steelers.

 

If Burrow could stay healthy they could win 14. That is a big IF though. The guy is too fragile.

 

If they had another option, I think this is true.

But there are only 32 of these jobs in the world. And you can be a top coaching candidate one year, and dust in the wind the next.

Plus, I think that coaches are a bit like athletes. Massive self confidence, bordering on lunacy.

 

Very true! But this is why I specified "coach with any head coaching credibility" A lot of coordinators and position coaches have jumped at the chance in Cleveland, and they have all gotten a black mark. I don't think they are aware of just how bad the culture is around the Browns. The fans are delusional, the media is not far behind. It is astonishing to listen to radio talk shows in Cleveland, nobody can talk about the strengths and weaknesses of the Browns, all they can do is project a pipe dream and complain about other teams and organizations.

This is what 60 years of sucking will do to people.

 

Their defense is not good enough to win 14 games even if they become average

 

Plus they have the Bengals culture.

 

Because I like to win money. LoL.

 

They have, but its a different system now, and the 1st year I won't bet the over.
Even though I want us to win, I gotta see how it works out 1st

 

If the D is better, and Burrow doesn't get hurt they will be the best in the division.

 

This, and in the back of each HC minds that take on the Browns is.........If I could be the HC that actually take the Browns to the SB, I would be a legend

 

Same HC every year. This year new HC. Who knows?