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The lethal combination of Tomlin and Rooney

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by TrueFan, Jul 15, 2026.

  1. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Steelers trivia: who owns the most improbable Steelers playoff game comeback in the last 30 years? Hint, it ain't Roethlisberger.

    With under six minutes left, down 33-21 in the 4th quarter, Steelers win probability of 4%, Mr Maddox went on a tear vs the Browns in the 2002 wild card. And the crown, Comeback Player of the Year, was in the books!
     
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  2. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    TOMMY MADDOX!!!

    The Browns wildcard playoff game. FU-amatu Ma AFALA with the TD!!!!
     
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  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL.
    1st thing that came to mind.
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Same thing would happen with Stewart, and did happen as happens with Lamar , when they faced a D in the playoff good enough to say OK no more running, you must beat us through the air to win.
     
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  5. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I believe because so many teams had a game plan of trying to defending us with Stewart then Maddox came in , and it was a totally different game then, and then they caught up with the change
     
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  6. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    What about Hurts? :shrug:

    He's been to two SBs, won one... and out-played Mahomes in the one he lost. Hurts has a similar playing style to Stewart... he can run if he has to.
     
  7. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Hmm. You don't think the comeback in the playoffs against the Ravens when they were up 21-7 was big. Hell that one got us another SB appearance.
     
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  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Hurts isn't Stewart, or Lamar.
    Hurts doesn't care about style points. Watch him play, watch his interviews, he doesn't care about being the cool guy, he just wants to win by any means.
     
  9. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Yeah ok. Mine was a lie then. LoL.
    No matter what you say , or try saying these are the actual records of both , no cherry picking, no leaving anything out. Every single game each has coached as a HC in the NFL.
    Cowher: 161- 99 - 1, 2 SB appearances, and 1 SB win.
    Tomlin: 201- 126- 2, 2SB appearances, and 1 SB win

    All else is feelings.
     
  10. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    That was #2. Most of the difference is the time remaining. PIT had more than a half to come back in that one (PIT win probability @ 22%).
     
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  11. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I didn't think about it that way. :thumbs_up:
     
  12. TrueFan

    TrueFan Well-Known Member

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    I feel like Tomlin had a lot more talent:smiley1:

    ETA: To work with that is.
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

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    Nope, yours isn’t a lie just incomplete.

    About as even as you can get for regular season, Cowher though eclipses Tomlin in the playoffs. A major gripe among Steelers fans these last 10 years if you havent noticed.

    I’ve often said Tomlin was a good regular season coach for the most part but that his brand of football has no chance in the playoffs.

    And again, one of these guys had Ben for most of his career while the other did not. Context matters.
     
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  14. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    The LBs have been key to the Steelers defenses over the years. I honestly don't know the answer to this question without looking it up; who had the better LB corp during their tenure? I feel like Cowher did. Greg Lloyd, Levon Kirkland, Kevin Green come to mind.
     
  15. S.T.D

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    LoL.
    Im leaving nothing out.
    That is every single game they both coached in the NFL as HCs. Every single game.
    No you are right, the others only other SB appearances came with Nolls draft pick N. O'Donnell, and he never got back to the SB again till Ben.
     
  16. TrueFan

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    Cowher never had talent like the Killer B's and there were several years he had below average talent. He fostered discipline and achievement rather than the kumbaya world that Tomlin fostered.
     
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  17. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL.
    He had Greg Lloyd who he didn't draft, R Woodson who he didn't draft, , J. Bettis who he didn't draft, N. O'Donnell who he didn't draft, C. Lake who he didn't draft, the list goes on , and on. You are just in your feelings about things.
    Cowher, and Tomlin are very similar in coaching.
    Again every single game they coached.
    Cowher 161- 99- 1, 2 SB appearances, and 1 SB win.
    Tomlin 201- 126- 2 , 2 SB appearances, and 1 SB win.

    Anything else is feelings.
     
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  18. TrueFan

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    I feel like this is one of those times someone is using stats to support their opinion.:smiley1:

    Let me give you an example:
    Let's say you and I each have a net worth of $10 million. You could make a case that we handled our money the same? But ...... I inherited $20 million cash five years ago, and you worked your ass off to build a great net worth. Still the same? Of course not!

    So .......Cowher was a great coach! Tomlin sucked!
    :drinks:
     
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  19. jeh1856

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    And then he hides behind the ignore button
     
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  20. TrueFan

    TrueFan Well-Known Member

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    Clowns are known to be afraid which why they wear makeup to hide their identity.
     
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  21. TrueFan

    TrueFan Well-Known Member

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    The longest Cowher ever went without a playoff win is three years. He is clearly a 3.33333 times better coach than Tomlin;)

    You don't even need feelings to see that! I'm just ****in with ya @S.T.D@S.T.D
     
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  22. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    And the longest for Noll was 4!
     
  23. HeinzMustard

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    This is true. Bettis was the best overall RB Steelers have had since Harris... but he was past his prime by the time SBXL rolled around.

    LeVeon Bell and Antonio Brown were about as good as Marshall Faulk and Isaac Bruce. Only difference is... Faulk and Bruce won a SB and HOF members because they didn't make bad business decisions. :icon mrgreen:
     
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  24. Steelersfan43

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    The killer B's offense would been much better if the head coach would been a offensive coach,similar to Dick Vermeil and it would worked with Todd Haley,similar with Mike Martz in 1999 for Vermeil!
     
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  25. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Just like Tomlin didn't win anything with the Killer B's, Cowher didn't win anything with those good defenses in the 90s. The Cowher fanboys will show up with the excuses :shrug:.
     

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