Joey Porter Jr contract negotiations

Payton Wilson is still under contract for 2027.

 

You are on the same boat? Haha

 

Yes, but so far he has been a below-average ILB. Hopefully, he figures it out this season.. I was hoping we would draft Rodriguez so they can make Queen the WILL. He plays better at that spot.

 

they have 2,976,140 in cap space right now.

 

The longer the team can delay the better for their cap situation. Ramsey and Heyward could be dropped next season. Watt could go the season after. Three big contracts on defense that go away. Should help offset JPJ's contract.

 

next season for highsmith as well. saves a ton of dead money and get's them the most cap relief with less dead money.

 

That's a good point.

And the first year in big contracts like JPJs will likely have a low cap hit in year 1 too since they are basically always structured so the 1st year money the player gets is signing bonus (only 1/4 or 1/5 of this will count to the cap) and salary that's basically at the minimum.

Contract will look cheaper if we sign it this year if people don't look only at "new years" because it still includes the last year of his rookie deal. And it's also possible that if he signed next year the contract would go an extra year into the future, so the team would be "buying" one more UFA year...which will be very expensive (but probably cheaper than that year would actually be if it were paid for on the following contract).

 

Also Queen's contract will be off the books next year.

 

the o-line will be getting signed as well. $$$$$

 

It's pretty easy to get more.

I think it's almost guaranteed that they'll restructure DK.

 

They would have more if they didn’t pay Watt

 

Only because the Patriots traded with the Steelers to move down. They don't do that if they aren't 100 percent certain the Steelers weren't going to take Gonzalez.

 

Or splurge for fresh silver spacer tape to use in the weight closet errr room.

 

Geez we aren't really paying a Qb, and won't be for at least another 4 years, or more. Pay the man.

 

Pay him what

Exactly how much

If he plays on his rookie contract they will pay

If they extend him they will pay him

If the tag him next year they will tag him

Pay him what

 

When are the Steelers going to stop letting the Browns keep setting the market first?

 

Yeah Herbig's base salary this year is just over $1.3MM. Total cap hit is under $5.5MM. Porter's deal will have a bigger bonus but base salary will be low. The first year of the second deal is cheap when you get it done early. The player gets money in their pocket so they don't care about the game check in year 1. And they're probably hitting FA a year earlier for their 3rd contract. The team gets that first year pretty cheap and takes on less risk on the back end (they stay on the right side of the age curve) in return.

 

Price tag keeps going up. At this point, injury or not, Peezy Jr is gonna be a whole lot richer.

 

Who says it's the Steelers holding things up? JPJ could be sitting on his hands watching the bag inflate. If I'm his agent that is exactly what I would have him do.

 

Last year Queen stated that Tomlin had him covering some guys he never should have been covering in the first place by design. Now that those responsibilities are gone, Queen presumably won’t be put in the same coverage situations.

That still doesn’t excuse his high missed-tackle numbers… or his $17.1M cap hit. Short, light, not fast, and an X-rat. Color him gone in 2027. I hope.

 

Agree... I assume there's also a bunch of posturing around his actual market value. Especially from Porter's side. Gonzalez has a 2nd team all-pro and a pro bowl under his belt. Ward has been doing it a long time and has 5 pro bowls to his name. Just to name two guys who have come up in this thread.

Porter is obviously a good player and the stats support it. But he doesn't have the hardware and there are probably a good 10-12 guys who are arguably ahead of him league wide. He'll ride the wave but I doubt he'll set the market.

 

People who think they know better

But don’t

 

Yet the Browns managed to get Ward signed. The Steelers have undervalued the position for many years. Even with a new coaching staff, I suspect that is at least part of the issue. Of course, this would have been easier to get done if they didn't overpay Watt.

 

Ward is not ahead of Porter. Pro Bowl selections are a joke, and Ward's age works against his value. Letting the Browns beat them to the punch on that was a mistake.