What is up with Tomlin?

I certainly agree that it should have been avoided.

But I think it's hard to argue that the problem was that Pouncey didn't practice snapping enough. Maybe if he was a young player who recently moved from G to C due to injury or something. But Pouncey was a veteran player (retired after the game) who was a perennial pro-Bowler.

If that snap doesn't get chalked up to a player making a (catastrophic) mistake, I don't know what would.

I don't think a hundred more reps would have made a different. And NFL practice time is pretty limited per the CBA, so I doubt they have time to sit with him and do 100 reps of shotgun snaps.

I think a similar thing would be if an OL false starts because they went on 2 instead of 3. I don't think the problem in that case is that the coaches didn't take a bunch of practice time to remind the players that counting goes: 1, 2, then 3. It's that they didn't remember what the snap count was.

For a guy with 10 seasons, 9 probowls, 2x 1st team APs, 3x 2nd team APs, not snapping the ball multiple feed above your 6'5" QB should be as easy as 1-2-3.

 

im not saying not just practicing enough but identifying what he was doing wrong. It wasnt a matter of being perfect in practice mechanics wise and then suddenly making a huge mistake in the game. I dont think it works like that. I’ll bet this problem was evident in practice (his snaps were high) and no adjustments were made.

 

Pouncey was very bad in his snaps in his final years in 2020...It was a accident waiting to happen

 

What was worse the snap or the quarterback to lazy to try to get the ball

 

Don't forget that James Conner was also in the backfield and being much quicker than Ben dived on the ball at the 2 yard line but it squirted away from Conner and into the end zone.

 

Yes

I do remember Conner at least tried

 

Dude that would be like saying if you got into a car accident it was because you didn't practice enough

 

You mean the same Qb who couldn't get under center because his legs were so messed up from earlier that year? That one?

 

dude, havent you heard? we should always practice safe driving? if you got into an accident that was your fault maybe you need to stop drinking or retake your drivers training

or both. And you didnt properly read my post

 

Agreed.

The front office / coaching failure was trying to hold on to the old OL for too long with no reasonable alternative in the pipeline.

I think the idea was to keep giving Ben new weapons and hope the OL could hold up. It didn't.

It would be interesting to peer into some alternate universe where Shazier doesn't get hurt and we don't have to try to rebuild the D on the fly. If we had Shazier playing at the level he was pre-injury when TJ started to peak on his rookie deal I think we would have had a much better chance to compete. The O was still good then, so both sides of the ball would have been above average at the same time.

 

Tomlin would find a way to waste it all
GOSPEL
SO LET IT BE WRITTEN.....

 

Yes that one who couldn’t even fall down on a football yep

 

If only the ball had DTF stamped on it instead of NFL he would have dropped, groped and hugged all on it

 

I think us normies tend to overestimate how much practice time NFL teams get during the week.

I think the CBA says teams can only be on-field for 14 hours per week (about 2 hours per day).

I could be wrong, but I believe that players can't stay after practice to work with coaches on specific technique things like this without violating the CBA.

This is the reason there are often stories during training camp of rookies talking about how laid back NFL practices are. Even the Steelers, who under Tomlin had among the most (maybe the most) physical camps in the league.

My understanding is that there are just far fewer restrictions on practice time in NCAA (probably even HS). Which is kind of ironic because it sounds like the supposed amateurs are doing at least as much work as the pros.

When you only have 2 hours a day to do physical things, I just don't think you're going to take a bunch of time away from doing things like running through aspects that are critical to the game plan for the upcoming playoff game to critique the basic fundamentals of an individual player. Especially one with as much experience and individual accomplishments as Pouncey.

 

To be fair, I think the not falling on it / not kicking it out the back was more on Connor than Ben (though Ben could have done it too).

I should link a video to the play here to show that Connor could have done it.

But I can't bring myself to watch it again. I apologize for my weakness.

 

good post, but thats where a good sized staff comes in. Make sure the routine, basics are being maintained. And Even a center thats been around for a while has to keep practicing the basics. Larry Bird never stoped shooting free throws in practice.

 

Maybe.

Ultimately, I think we run into the limit that you only have one of each player. So I'm not sure if having more coaches would have allowed for more work on technique. Hard to know when we're not there IMO.