In comparing Howard and Alar ask THIS question-

Those were the days

During that time I found it easier to move than to have to clean

 

Allar sounds like Trubisky a bit

The mental state is everything

if Howard can be our Brock Purdy i would take that in a second

 

Let's hope not, and that both of them are so good we can't decide between which one to keep.

 

Then you keep both

 

you have to be 3 years removed from HS to be eligible for the supplemental draft.

The fact that you still won’t admit you were wrong about that is weird.

 

I’m not seeing where @Joel Buchsbaum is wrong

Perhaps you are misquoting him

His statement that there is no age limit is correct

If a child prodigy graduated HS at age 10 he would be eligible for a draft at age 13 although unlikely

Your statement that you have to be 3 years removed is accurate but is irrelevant to age

 

There is no misquote on my part.

Drew Allar wasn’t eligible for the 2024 draft nor the supplemental draft in 2024.

Like I said before.. its weirdo sh!t to not be a able to admit an obvious mistake.

 

Please explain the mistake supported by facts

 

Just click the link provided on Page 14 in regards to Drew Allar’s draft eligibility in 2024.

I will also post it here since it may seem like too much work to go back 2 pages.

https://www.planetsteelers.com/forum/index.php?threads/top-10-draft-eligible-qbs.35849/

in closing, I never denied the rules for the supplemental draft. Joel claimed Allar could DROP OUT of college in 2024 and enter the supplemental draft. Not possible, but why in the HELL would he do that after Joel had claimed he would be a top 15 pick in the 2024 draft if he decided to enter?

twisting into a pretzel instead of saying “oops, my bad” us weirdo sh!t.

 

You can't keep both long if they are actually both really good. It's impossible realistically in today's NFL without totally destroying the rest of the team.

 

Browns shopping Sanders....?

Add to Steelers collection....

Shedeur Sanders trade rumors 2026: What the Browns are actually doing - cleveland.com https://share.google/4zgYlxsRAPqlHx6xJ

 

Move on dude.

 

Judging by his media day photo, Allar is a long-levered guy with some real arm length. He could stand to add about 10 pounds, and he still looks like he hasn’t fully matured physically yet. He’s a young 22 ( March birthday ) who could easily pass for 20. Like most Steeler fans, I can’t wait to see him in preseason. He’s got a full year to develop, so how much he improves between now and mini-camp will be telling. If I’m McCarthy, I’d give him around 20 pass plays per preseason game to work with, but I wouldn’t throw the full playbook at him yet.

On Will Howard, I still don’t know what his true value is. I’d play him heavily in Preseason Game 1. If he doesn’t flash, I’d move on — keep Mason as the backup and try to trade Howard. At this point he needs to at least be even with Rudolph to make the roster. He’ll be 25 this September and has 43 college starts, so his experience, readiness, and physical maturity are way ahead of Allar’s. The big question with Howard this. How much of his success was because he was at Ohio State with elite WRs, a great coach, and a solid O-line? Can he stand on his own, or was he just a good jockey riding Secretariat? As for Allar, he doesn’t need to play more than a few snaps until the Howard/Rudolph situation for 2026 gets sorted out in camp. Howard's arm looked a little weak last camp, but supposedly he has improved a bit of his velocity. We'll see.

Rudolph will like look a bit better in camp as we added some talent to the offense. As a back up, he is the safe play.

I say it will be a quick decision by Mike M between Howard and Rudolph.

I would not play AR at all in pre-season game #1. In fact maybe just per-season 10 snaps or so during the 2nd preseason game. That's it.

 

Rodgers won't play at all in pre-season and they shouldn't bother giving Rudolph more than one series a game. We need to see what we have in Howard and Allar so they should play 90% of the time in pre-season.

 

I don't know if we have the capital to trade for a QB that "made" the probowl in a stacked AFC.

 

Agree, but I'd give Rodgers one series in the last game.

And my guess is that they're going to play Rudolph more than we want them to. He's a well known commodity, but maybe not by this staff in this offense.

 

If Howard plays a lot in preseason maybe they are advertising for a trade? They are not keeping 4 QBs and there's already plenty of tape on Rudolph.

Howard? Allar? ... meh, sign her up today!

 

It makes no sense to base everything on one presason performance by Howard. McCarthy is a better coach than that. Rodgers might not see the field at all in the preesason games, and we already know what Rudolph is, so it makes sense to focus the preseason games on Howard and Allar.

 

That guess is certainly possible, but I hope they don't waste snaps on Rudolph.

Rodgers didn't play at all in the preseason last year, and the result was arguably his best game of the season in the opener. He can get his work in practice and stay as healthy as possible for the games that count.

 

Yes
Yes
Yes

 

At training camp no team throws the full playbook at any quarterback or offense. Preseason is actually very vanilla. You should know this.

 

You can only hope Rodgers in having his second and possibly final SB ring ride off into the sunset however chances always are appearing very slim for now.

 

If I were Mike McCarthy, I’d limit him to roughly 20 pass plays per preseason game that he has practiced. Let him be comfortable with that. No -- I wouldn’t open the full playbook yet. A typical NFL offense carries 100–150 unique passing concepts that, when mixed with formations, motions, and personnel groupings, can create hundreds of distinct plays. There’s no need to flood a young quarterback with all of that right away. Instead, give him a small, focused package he can truly master. As Vince Lombardi famously emphasized, greatness is built on mastering the basics first. Drill a handful of concepts until their second nature, then expand. Does that make sense?

 

man.. put Howard in Allar in all types of scenarios. That is precisely what preseason is for.