are we on the upswing

Nope don’t agree

But we don’t have to

 

You can have great offense but poor defense.....It was about offense but if you want to go that way,3 of the top 5 teams were in the conference title game

 

But 6 of them still didn't even make the playoffs

 

Lions and cowboys had great offense,same for the colts before their collapse

 

Two teams we beat.

 

Only offense I was talking but yes,the games against the colts and lions were the 2 best games by the steelers in 2025

 

Different coach, young line getting experienced, new offensive system and coordinator, additional good players added to the offense. Those are some reasons that should raise Rodgers level from last year. Does that answer the question?

 

When I read this I heard Julie Andrews singing it

 

Not exactly.


On paper?! Sure. In practice?! Time will tell. If only installing an entirely new systemic approach was as easy as some make it out to be (not you specifically). Takes time; considerable time in regards to Pittsburgh given the entirely new Coaching Staff. Mike McCarthy is no Rookie to this thankfully and having Rodgers will smooth out the Offensive Transition but those two can only do so much.


Offensive Line, yet again, has new faces on it. The grace is that Zach Frazier, Troy Fautanu and Mason McCormick are all returning. The problem is the right side will feature new starters yet again. Wide Receiver is also a question mark. I am a big Germie Bernard fan but will he have the smooth transition that can translate into instant production at the NFL Level?! What about Roman Wilson?! Will he be able to put it all together in Year Three?! On that note, who is the number three WR right now?! That is still a major question floating in the air.


Overall, I would like to believe that the Steelers are a team on the upswing. However, what I think versus what is real are two different things. Have to see the results play out.

 

Not really. It’s a QB who can not extend a play or elude the rush and finish the play.

Every 2025 playoff winning QB was able to hang with or extend the play to make positive things happen.

Rodgers can’t do that. He’s an old QB who hits his first pre snap read at the top of his drop or throws it away.

It happens to all old QBs. Ben spent two seasons doing it. So did Brees and Brady.

 

Apparently we don’t agree

But I’ll stick to the facts rather than opinion

 

Again, I’m asking but what facts are under dispute?

Rodgers had one of the quickest time to throw in the league and shortest distance thrown.

And it can’t be the coaching in Pittsburgh. Rodgers had had this year over year across three teams now. It is how he wants to play QB.

He’s one maybe two reads and then he bails on the play on to the next.

What am I missing?

 

she knows the message.

 

I can turn everything you listed around and say those are reasons why the Steelers offense won't be as good this year. Plus, add in a more difficult schedule.

 

if a qb has to extend a play , it is usually because the receivers didn't get open when they should have and now it's sandlot football. he is down on interceptions and sacks in the league from last year in an offense that won't be nearly as good as it will this year. those are bad things by the way. let's not forget the suspension of your number one receiver doesn't help.

 

schedules are wait and see. they are based on the teams from last year and most often things change during the next season. we shall find out. we know what last year was, we don't know yet what this year will bring for us or the teams we have to play. we now have two or three wide receivers that have to be accounted for this year as opposed to last. not to mention at one point we didn't even have our top guy either. that alone should help. another thing is the familiarity of the offense to the staff and qb makes the transition a little easier than a new coach and new coaches and players to that system.

 

what he was smart in doing though was hiring a staff that has known his system and a qb that knows it as well. makes that transition a lot easier.

 

You still need balance, and if you're capable of doing both, like Mahomes, Josh Allen,Rodgers in his prime,etc it's a nightmare for the opposing defenses.Not every time,the receiver will be open on the first or second read

 

Every single NFL QB that folks currently discuss as “elite” or “franchise” guys has the capability to make teams pay for sending the rush by evading, resetting, and making something happen.

Goff got brought up earlier. That’s the biggest difference in Goff as a Ram and as a Lion. Goff now can create a bit out of structure. Darnold just won a SB by overcoming his career long tendency to self-destruct when pressure made him move his eyes and feet.

Rodgers won all but his last MVP and forged much of his HOF resume by moving after the rush/coverage shut down the play design and dissecting the defense on a second or third option. He’s not physically capable of that any longer. He’s got a ceiling on his play based on the physical deterioration from age. I’m confused as to why any of that’s controversial. It’s literally the story of why guys retire and how the QB position is currently played in the NFL.

 

It could be scheme; not unreasonable.

But Rodgers did those same things at the end of Green Bay and with the Jets. So there’s a significant amount of evidence that Rodgers plays this way outside of Tomlin or Smith.

We shall see. I’m not optimistic. I’m not asking anyone else to chose that. Just be aware that there’s a not insignificant amount of evidence on the pessimism side. It’s not just all sunshine and rainbows.

 

Agreed.


As I said in my statement, I award that argument. However, while the transition will be easier, that doesn't mean it will be done as early as Week 1. A lot of moving parts still.

Even I can award that three out of the five Offensive Lineman return. However, learning a new blocking scheme along with learning new blocking tendencies from two new Offensive Line Coaches while learning a new system?! Gonna be some lumps.


This isn't accounting for who will be the starting RG and RT in Week One either; another set of issues.

 

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