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Tell me you don't know how to read a chart without telling me you don't know how. You can't just look at rush, or pass, you must look at over all D in the red zone. LoL
We were number 4, the Raiders were not even in the top 10. LoL.
Thank You for helping my argument. LoL

 

We were better in points allowed, which he didn't want to give for the Raiders.
We were better in sacks.
We were better in turnovers.

 

I totally like how You skipped what the Raiders were in points allowed. LoL. Sweet trick. LoL

 

steelers host a few players for tryouts. a few major players of this group.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...S&cvid=6a1ff822248345f799eabd91cd90297b&ei=15

i always liked tonyon. so did rodgers. he's been hurt alot but he did have one big year.

 

No trick, its what I copied and pasted. The bottom line is that they were ranked higher then your boy Bags defense. So glad his stale @ss is gone.

So the basic premise is that I am quite excited what Patrick Graham brings to the table to flush out the stale @ss defense.

The whole garbage that Bags did more with less with the highest paid defense is a joke. Graham did more with less.

 

LoL. See this is the problem with some people you make it about Tomlin. I have never once mentioned any coaches. We all know You are not a better D if You give up more points.
I for one know that no matter who the coaches are if Your Defense gives up more points, has less sacks, has less turnovers then Your D is not as good as a team that's Defense gave up less points, had more sacks, and had more turnovers.
This is the same thing as the people that couldn't get over Mason Rudolph when I said we needed a backup with some NFL experience, and that has actually won NFL games. I repeatedly said I don't care who it was, but some people couldn't get past Mason, just like some can get past Tomlin.
Any team , I repeat any teams D that gives up less points, has more sacks, and more turnovers is a better D than any D that gives up more points, has less sacks, and has less turnovers. Any team ,so take Tomlin out of it, and use that thing that God put in your skull to actually think. Geez. This is a basic thing.
You don't win games by yards.

 

For the people that has made this about Tomlin.
Who had the better D, Seattle, or the Broncos??

Someone show me where this says the Raiders D was ranked higher than the Steelers???
Sorry . I chose to live in reality, not some fantasy that I would like

 

I kind of enjoy my fantasy world

 

I noticed all the Raiders had a better D didn't answer.

 

I am lost; Is this what you want?

#14 Raiders. 317.8 YPG --->Cap Total: $41,460,937 (Bang for your Buck)
#26 Steelers. 356.9 YPG -->Cap Total: $90,384,939


https://www.foxsports.com/articles/nfl/2025-nfl-defense-rankings-team-pass-and-rush-stats

 

NOPE

POINTS

DUH


STEELERS DEFENSE
10-7

Points Against
22.8
17th


RAIDERS DEFENSE
3-14

Points Against
25.4
25th

What are you doing out there in Colorado?
Calling in civilian airstrikes?

 

I think he said he scuba dives out there

I’m still trying to figure out where he finds enough water

 

Yes

yes

yes

Simple enough

 

It is what it is. I think it is pretty idiotic you are wanting to blame Patrick Grahm's defense for the Raiders not being able to score points and win games last year.

Raiders defense finished 14th in yards allowed last year; HUGE ACCOMPLISHMENT with their offense being so bad.

Mike Tomlin's defense finished 26th out of 32 teams in yards given up and spent over $90 million sucking ass in 2025.

Patrick spent half as much as Tomlin and his defense gave up fewer yards last year

Winner Winner chicken dinner.

 

Brice !!!
That's points scored on the defense.
Not points scored by the defense.

BUT if you will
Steelers defense scored more points than Raiders too

 

Some people will break their necks to not admit they are wrong.

 

Right
I like Brice. Probably just misread my post.

Sometimes, not always,
Sometimes

THE BRICE IS RIGHT!!!!