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  1. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    The same pff that graded Trubisky in the upper half of QBs back in 2022?

    BTW, other than 2025, PFF’s run defense ratings of Okereke have been very solid if you’d care to look.
     
    Steel_Elvis, May 29, 2026 at 12:02 PM
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  2. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    Bobby Wagner would be a good FA signing, at least for 1 year. I know he's old, but he's still playing at a very high level.
     
    Arch Stanton, May 29, 2026 at 12:16 PM
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  3. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Joe Pa 409 wins. Greatest coach ever.

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    I’m more interested in who he is rather than who he was
     
    jeh1856, May 29, 2026 at 12:48 PM
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  4. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    LOL. Reminds of a billboard; "Half price drinks tomorrow "
     
    Bubbahotep, May 29, 2026 at 12:51 PM
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  5. Chucktownsteeler

    Chucktownsteeler Well-Known Member

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    I would say thanks, but no thanks.

    You may want to ask Joel.
     
    Chucktownsteeler, May 29, 2026 at 1:07 PM
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  6. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Ok. How does he compare to our current ILBs in terms of 2025 PFF ratings? Hint… I do know the answers, like Patrick Queen’s 31 coverage rating (ranked 83rd among 88 LBs vs Okereke’s 21st coverage ranking among LBs). Or Queen’s 79 tackles vs. Okereke’s 103 in the same number of snaps.

    Keep in mind we’re talking about free agents who are currently available, not big time free agent targets on Day 1 of free agency. It’s about who can help the team vs. what we have on the current roster. Context.
     
    Steel_Elvis, May 29, 2026 at 1:22 PM
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  7. Brice

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    I am surprised the Steelers have not brought in Elandon Roberts. Roberts has experience with both the Steelers and played last year in new DC's system while in Vegas.
     
    Brice, May 29, 2026 at 5:01 PM
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  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Maybe the same place that said the Raiders D was better than the Steelers :shrug:.
    LoL . Sorry :eek:
     
    S.T.D, May 31, 2026 at 4:23 PM
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  9. CK 13

    CK 13 Well-Known Member

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    2025 season

    Steelers total defensive rank: 26th

    Faders total defensive rank: 18th

    Patrick Graham already is looking promising.
     
    CK 13, May 31, 2026 at 5:51 PM
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  10. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Joe Pa 409 wins. Greatest coach ever.

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    jeh1856, May 31, 2026 at 6:20 PM
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  11. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    a swap of okereke over harrison would be very nice. a much bigger gain then even queen. :cool:
     
    mac daddyo, May 31, 2026 at 6:22 PM
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  12. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Joe Pa 409 wins. Greatest coach ever.

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    So apparently pff is ok when it fits your needs and not when someone else uses it

    Pick one :shrug:
     
    jeh1856, May 31, 2026 at 6:31 PM
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  13. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    For me it’s useful for responding to someone who bases a stated opinion on what PFF says.
     
    Steel_Elvis, May 31, 2026 at 7:25 PM
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  14. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Joe Pa 409 wins. Greatest coach ever.

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    I guess

    And I seldom look at pff

    But I don’t think finding an occasional anomaly that is not perfect automatically dismisses the bulk of the work

    And there are posters here who do that if it helps their narrative

    n’ at
     
    jeh1856, May 31, 2026 at 7:45 PM
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  15. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    I’m surprised Cleveland haven’t already secured rights to him
     
    Thigpen82, Jun 1, 2026 at 5:42 AM
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  16. Steel_Elvis

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    If they do, they’ll need to add another wing to their QB room.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Jun 1, 2026 at 6:00 AM
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  17. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I’d like to see a bar chart of the number of different QBs that have been on each team’s 53 man roster, or that played regular season snaps for each team, since 2020. The Browns would have to be double that of any other team. Sadly…. If we looked at just 2022 - 2024 we would probably be in the Top 5.
     
    Steel_Elvis, Jun 1, 2026 at 6:14 AM
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  18. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    paging @Bubbahotep@Bubbahotep
    :smiley1:
     
    forgotten1, Jun 1, 2026 at 8:05 AM
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  19. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    I was actually going to tag him in that email
     
    Steel_Elvis, Jun 1, 2026 at 12:54 PM
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  20. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how many times I must write this.
    That is yards nothing more.
    Raiders gave up more points on D.
    Had less sacks on D.
    Had less turnovers on D.
    Was worse in the Red zone on D.
    Lost more Games.
    Now with all that said, outside of yards which doesn't win games, what were the Raiders D better at???????
     
    S.T.D, Jun 1, 2026 at 2:35 PM
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  21. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    https://www.nfl.com/stats/team-stats/defense/red-zone/2025/reg/all

    Raiders better redzone D. What else are you wrong about on your list? You rattle stuff off with no proof.
     
    Blast Furnace, Jun 1, 2026 at 2:54 PM
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  22. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    have another project I am working on... should spur some interesting comments...:icon cool:
     
    Bubbahotep, Jun 1, 2026 at 4:11 PM
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