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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Bubbahotep, May 19, 2026.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. You don't think having the Defense cause the most turnovers in the NFL, and therefore giving the ball back to the offense over, and over has anything to do with that??
     
  2. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    A defense can have a turnover after a 5 minutes drive or longer too....Overall the bears defense were on the field for 5.8 plays per drive,12th in the NFL.Not bad but not amazing too
     
  3. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Dude it's simple math . Don't make it complicated.
    If your Defense gives the ball back to the offense, no matter when, that is at least 3 more play for the offense everytime, unless they turn it back over . Now if Your Defense is giving you the ball back more than any team in the NFL, well you do the math, think about it.
     
  4. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Sometimes a 3 and out is better that a turnovers when this is after a long drive
     
  5. feltdeez

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    That’s been his game ever since college. He plays much better in crunch time.
     
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  6. feltdeez

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    Seems like there is always an excuse when a person has hate for a player.

    Having a good defenses always help helps but the QB still has to make plays in order to win games.

    Ball doesn’t lie. What he did last year was the same thing he was doing at USC. I think injury is the only thing that is going to impact his future because he has the arm and talent to be a great QB.
     
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  7. Iron Nickel

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    They're my pick as well. Also you have a new sheriff in town, and a new coordinator who may not appreciate Jackson's skill set if he wants to build on the simplified reads Jackson's always depended on.

    My prediction is this season will lead them to change the QB1 role, meaning they'll pick in the top 15 and will get after a QB in the 2027 draft. I actually respect their selection in this recent draft of Pavia because I think he was a bit underappreciated for what he did. But it's not like he's going to factor in to the starting role and I don't like the rest of their QB depth chart.
     
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  8. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    2025 Offensive Points per Possession vs Wins:

    Tells me Steelers offense was as good as for example Denver.

    Wins vs. Points Per Poss.png
     
  9. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    can't we use a key lime pie chart? :hehehe::smiley1::cool:
     
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  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    How am I a hater??
    I told you, I watch the Bears when the Steelers aren't playing. In my family I could have only been a Steelers, or Bears fan. I'm sorry if I've seen this story before, and not too long ago. I hope He does well, as long as it's not against the Steelers, but I believe a HC called Matt Nagy, and a QB called Mitchell Trubisky was getting all the same love about the exact same time into their careers. I've personally never seen a Qb that was had the 34 worst passing completion be great, but we shall see.
     
  11. Iron Nickel

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    If you look at your top offenses in any given year, it's about pass game potency. Passing is how you score points, it's what gets you to the redzone and it can also be potent in the redzone. Running the ball is valuable, but moreso as balance in today's game. You don't want to inch your way down the field, philosophically speaking, in modern offensive strategy.

    So the Steelers of yesteryear (2025) were a solid unit. But what we're about to see in the 2026 season is a whole different level of pass game efficiency. I think this is a certainty because if you have let's say two top offensive weapons, the best defenses you will face in the playoffs can double your top threat and put their top corner on your WR2. Or utilize many other strategies to nullify your top threats, leaving you depending on lesser options on critical downs.

    But a funny thing happens as you get into that range of having 3 threats. Because now there's always going to be someone who is a matchup nightmare for you, unless you run into the very best defensive units with an ability to handle it. And if you can get to 4 threats you hit that range where there should always be a matchup for the
    QB he can win with, no matter what you do, which means the only way defenses can stop you is quick pressure and confusing your QB.

    Steelers are most likely going to fall into that 3 range I expect. Pittman and Bernard will hold down the possession and chain moving. Metcalf is not someone I have ever liked, but he's got his uses with the deep ball and the TE room offers options as well, so I think collectively they'll end up being an offense with a third read that has advantage on most snaps.

    Also of course QB factors in to this heavily. And Rodgers for all his age and fragility is still very much a QB who can make the most of these options. Also OL as well, where a poor unit would potentially nullify those advantages. But the OL quality overall feels like it's good enough. As to the run game, do they have the pieces to offer sufficient balance? Yes.

    So from my perspective if they can keep Rodgers healthy this offense should perform among the top units in this league. Talking top 5 range. If they lose Rodgers then you're talking a solid unit still due to overall quality, so it is possible Howard steps in and they still end up with a top 15 unit overall.

    Lastly I also like the defensive roster as well. Meaning if health favors the Steelers they're going to be a legitimate playoff contender. I am very high on this team, which means I'm probably going to end up feeling silly for drinking the kool-aid, but what can I say I'm a sucker for blue raspberry.
     
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  12. Bubbahotep

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    I'm not as sure about the OL as some of yinz. They need to be solid if not excellent for Rodgers to have a chance. A lot of shuffling this year, new offense, new calls, and who knows what the injury bug will look like.
    I expect the first month of the season will not look so good.
     
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  13. Iron Nickel

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    Certainly possible.

    But protections vs weapons is the offensive side of the coin for what we see with the pass rush vs coverage. Significant increase in weapons is meaningful. We're gonna feel it.
     
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  14. feltdeez

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    You HAVE seen this before. Josh Allen had the 33 worst completion percentage in his second year in the league. Now think about this, Caleb Williams made the playoffs and won a playoff game in his second season with the 34th worst completion %.

    Most 4th quarter TD’s last season.
    Josh Allen: 13
    Caleb: 9

    The hype may remind you of the last time Bears fans had high expectations but you know damn well these 2 have entirely different skill sets and Williams is showing star power when the lights are the brightest.
     
  15. S.T.D

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    We'll see.
    Again. I seen every single team that's D was in the top 7 of turnovers make the playoffs, and Chicago was number one at this. It didn't matter who their Qb was.
    We'll see.
    I will bet money right now that if Chicago is number one at turnovers again this year they make the playoffs, no matter who their Qb is.
     
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  16. jeh1856

    jeh1856 Joe Pa 409 wins. A great humanitarian.

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    Based on what I see this is not a good group for this approach

    JMHO
     
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  17. feltdeez

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    You can say it doesn’t matter who the QB is but it does matter when the QB has a rating and f 143.5 in the last 5 minutes of games and 6 wins when trailing with less than 2 minutes to play.

    Not sure why you are determined to spin this like Caleb was dragged to the playoffs by his defense when the film says otherwise.

    We shall see.
     
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  18. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    So I'm lying that every team with a D in the top 7 of turnovers made the playoffs?? That's 7 different Qbs. I'm not saying the dragged him.
     

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