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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Bubbahotep, May 19, 2026.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. OK. Would You like to bet who watches more Bears games , You, or Me??
    I also like How You left off the playoffs comparison.
    Sanchez 9 tds , 3 ints.
    Williams 4tds, and 5 ints. LoL.
    You like stats, how about he had the 34 worst completion %. LoL
    I heard all this same stuff about Matt Nagy, and Mitchell Trubisky. It's OK, I just snapped a picture of this, and I will be looking for You later in the year to discuss this. LoL
    Also Your little friend that put winner. He is also the same guy who put winner up for anyone who thought Fields should have been resigned here, you know that guy that lost his job after he left, and that the Vikings HC , and the Vikings would take a step forward, so his opinion aren't very smart often.
     
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  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Marshall Faulk is IMO a top 5 Rb of all time.
     
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  3. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Same.


    His work in the media doesn't help his case. He hasn't been good there imo. That said, people equivocate his performance in the media vs his performance on the field; also inviting something called a category error. That said, a lot of people like to contradict a lot and are uninformed so it doesn't bother me as much anymore as it used to.


    Cut your nose to spite your face. :drinks:
     
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  4. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Yes Williams hold the ball very long but at least he is able to avoid the sacks.He was sacked 68 times in his rookie year but he improve big time in 2025 with only 24 sacks.I don't care much about the completion % since it depend the type of the offense and a checkdown is good for the completion % but often bad for the offense since it don't move the offense much but I agree he need to be more consistant for the accuracy but this problem is correctable....If he improve to 62-63% and continue to play the same way,he will be a super star QB
     
  5. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    You did not watch the game of the bears since 3 interceptions in the playoffs by Williams was on fourth down
     
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  6. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    LoL. What the blue blazes does that have to do with throwing a int, and if You use your brain, and think, I was watching the games, and on here talking about in the playoff game thread. LoL
     
  7. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    I mean,context matter when it come to the interceptions....I mean,I guess it would been better for Williams to throw out of bounds on fourth down(similar to Russell Wilson with the giants last season)to protect his passing rating and keep the interceptions low :roflmao:

    When you are on fourth down and nobody is open,you need to force things no matter what.I prefer that over throwing out of bounds to protect the stats since sometimes a miracle can happens in this situation.Just ask to Eli Manning in super bowl 42 to David Tyree(I know it was a 3rd down and 5 but the chance to win that game would been very low with a sack or throwing out of bounds)
     
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  8. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Just because you throw a int on 4th down doesn't mean it wasn't a bad throw, a bad decision, and that someone else wasn't open.
     
  9. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    As most QBs do, Williams benefitted from a big jump in the Bears' run game in 2025. Something they lacked in 2024.
     
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  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    Accuracy has very little to do with the type of Offense and a lot more to do with the QB's own individual ability as a whole. Hell, even the most friendly of QB Offenses in the vein that the likes of Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay or even Kellen Moore do need a QB who is capable of both effectively and consistently place the ball in the correct spots. Without accuracy, no matter how good everything else is for the QB, he will always be limited.
     
  11. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    True but the completion % can

    The completion % don't always tell the whole story if a QB is accurate or not.I agree that Willams need to improve on that but it can be correctable...He is still a high ceilling QB
     
  12. AskQuestionsLater

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    A QBs ability to both place his passes into the correct spots along with having good ball security are exactly what determines accuracy though. As a result, completion percentage is mainly driven by these two factors for neither are dependent on schemes but the individual; thus making completion percentage an argument based in objectivity. Williams regressed in both area's in 2025; that much is irrefutable. Even if I were to award the complete aspect that completion percentage doesn't tell the whole story, Williams release time was terrible.


    Can he improve it?! I hope so. Will he be able to though given his penchant for his "hero ball" instincts?! Time will tell.
     
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  13. pczach

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    Marshall Faulk was also one of my favorite players. Insane ability and a football mind that understood everything that was happening on the field. He did everything well.

    I don't understand why anyone would make fun of Marshall Faulk. He was absolutely dominant with two teams, but what he did with the Rams was insane. He was probably the first running back that could line up and play receiver. He was that good.
     
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  14. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    This, and don't leave out the amount of turnovers their D got them. They were number 1 in that category, and all the top 7 in that category made the playoffs, including us.
     
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  15. feltdeez

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    You may watch more Bear games live but I have every game recorded on NFL+ during the season. I watch a ton of football.

    You heard all the same stuff about Trubisky and Nagy? Stop lying. You never heard this type of excitement over a WB from Bear fans since 1985.

    Williams is tied for 2nd for the most 4th quarter TD’s. Passer rating was 95 in the 4th quarter.

    Your hate for Williams sounds personal.. lol
     
  16. feltdeez

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    damn defense.. lol. I could see if Williams had 12TD’s and was averaging 15 attempts a game but this is not the case. Dude is a baller in crunch time and will improve the more he plays.
     
  17. jeh1856

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    Was his 4th quarter stats a sign of sudden improvement or just playing against a prevent defense
     
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  18. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    He had 6 comebacks win this year,7 including the playoffs game vs Green Bay,so it was not in garbage time or thing like that
     
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  19. Steel_Elvis

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    I’m not sure how Williams will fare in the long run as an NFL QB, but he sure as hell makes more big passing plays than recent Bears QBs. If he has more development potential on tap, he could be really good. But he has to grow. A QB can’t live on a diet of hero ball plays. It will be an interesting season for Bears fans.
     
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  20. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    So their D leading the league in turnovers, and therefore giving him more chances didn't help anything???
     
  21. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    The bears offense were also 6th in yards and they had the fewer turnovers in the league with only 11,so they have done their part.The bears defense had some major struggle in 2025.Great in turnovers but bottom 10 in PPG and bottom 5 in yards
     
  22. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    For the 5 million times, yards don't equal points, and don't win games.
    Only category I can find that all top 7 Defenses had that made the playoffs is turnovers. That it.
     
  23. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    Yards is still important,since it mean you move the ball....When you move the ball,your defense is much often on the sideline and you have more chance to score
     
  24. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Not really. You can get all of those yard on one play. I know you've seen it.
     
  25. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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    But not for the bears...The bears had the second most play on offense in the NFL last season
     

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