Who are the Steelers most under/overrated players of all-time?

Most overrated: LlaMar Woodley or Jason Gildon.

Underrated: Deshea Townsend

 

What is your take on K, Greene, as a Steeler relative to those two?

It always amazes me how beloved Greene is by Steeler fans as opposed to those two when they are all essentially the same guy.

To be "overrated people have to rate you highly. I simply don't see that with Woodley and Gildon.

I have frequently seen KGreene in folks favorite player and have NEVER SEEN ANYONE glow Gildon. NEVER. Both are nothing but one trick pony sack makers. NEITHER showed up when it counts.

Therefore, I would suggest Gildon is underrated not because he is better than Greene but because nobody respects his game. You cannot be overrated when nobody thinks you are great and are bashed constantly by fans of your own team.

Greene on the other hand, is beloved by Steeler fans despite bringing little.more than Gildon did.

Woodley is also bashed by Steeler fans far more than he is appreciated DESPITE the fact that he actually showed up in the postseason. This is despite the fact that he was literally THE MOST CONSISTENT PASS RUSHER IN STEELER POSTSEASON HISTORY.

In his short career Woodley had MORE PLAYOFF SACKS THAN THE ENTIRE STEELER FRANCHISE DOES SINCE TJ WAS DRAFTED.

Do you realize that Woodley has more playoff sacks than all but a small handful of players in NFL HISTORY? More than K Greens career with 3 teams, more that Lawrence Taylor?

Dude how can Woodley be overrated when he was a HUGE factor in getting us TO TWO SBs and people never give him love?

There were not two but THREE huge plays that won the SB against the Cards.

We all remember TWO of them.

But as great as it wad the Santonio catch did not close the door on the Cardinals. Woodleys timely strip sack did.

Yet Woodley is bashed at a 10 to 1 versus praised on forums. How does that make him OVER-rated?

Woodley IS THE ONLY PLAYER IN NFL HISTORY WHO HAS SACKS IN HIS FIRST 7 PLAYOFF GAMES. His last playoff game is the only one without a sack.

Gildon Greene and Woodley ARE one trick sack artists. ONLY WOODLEY brought that trick to the playoffs.

 

Woodley had more sacks in the 2008 playoffs (6) THAN ANY STEELERS HAS HAD TOTAL SINCE THE DAY WOODLEY RETIRED.

 

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/most-career-postseason-sacks

Of the top 20 players in NFL HISTORY in playoff sacks ONLY LAMAR WOODLEY averages more than one sack per game.

He is the only one to get there in only 8 games.

 

Woodley was drafted in Tomlins first draft. Tomlins playoff success has a direct correlation to Woodleys production.

 

Woodley is more on the underrated side...If you think he was overrated,this is insase

 

Absolutely. And he is WAY on the underrated side.

And again I ask, why do people love KG so much when he also was nothing more than a sack artist who disappeared when it counted.

Fans were always mad when Woodey showed up fat and had slow starts but he also routinely FINISHED MILES AHEAD of most of our pass rushers.

 

Award for the most underrated because so many call him overrated Lamarr Woodley.

Most overrated BECAUSE EVERYONE calls him underrated? Casey Hampton. Yeah, yeah "he doesn't make plays he opens the way for everyone else because he occupies four guy..." Really?

He was solid true. But when he was hurt our record with Hoke was like 18-1.

All time best Steeler season record, number one defense and linebacker Farriors ONLY all pro season was 2004, when Casey was mostly hurt.

So yes, Casey was good at his role. But don't act like out linebackers would be trash save for his massive butt.

You cannot have an entire fan base call a dude underrated and it be true. That means HE IS HIGHLY RATED.

 

Where does the HEATHEN named Steel Machine live
The man speaks Steelers message board BLASPHEMY!!!


He has broken two Steeeler board COMMANDMENTS.

Thou shall not glorify Mike Tomlin
Thou shall not speak ill of Chuck Noll.

(Breaking BOTH commandments simultaneously is so aggregious of a sin that it is punishable by death even when one professes it was uttered in jest)

 

I agree with everything you said except....yes He had to switch to safety to stay playing in the NFL.

 

No freaking way!!!!
You have got to be totally wrong!!!!
I was told we only won with Cowhers players. LoL

 

i cant believe i have to spell it out to a “steelers fan”.

3 time first team all pro
MVP of SB X
4 Time SB champ

and the best of his era at combat catches due to his leaping ability and excellent ability at tracking the ball, meaning he excelled at adjusting or speeding up and leaping to get to the football. And he had excellent hands on top of all that. If we had a young lynn swann on last years team he wouldve made AR look so much better and we might've had a longer season.

People who call these players on the 70’s dynasty overrated never really watched or were skeptical stat obsessed closet fans of other teams.

 

Maybe THAT is why Woodley gets no love.

 

3 time all pro does not get you into the HOF

The other two are a notch above participation trophy’s

I thoroughly loved watching Swann but he does not belong in the HOF

I would Ward ahead of Swann and Ward does not belong in the HOF

 

I don’t think that’s Swann but I was sitting in peanut heaven

 

I remember who he was, but was he ever highly regarded enough to be overrated?

 

Ohhhhh!!!!!
You shut Your dirty mouth. LoL.
Both belong to the HOF.

 

Not every player who was on all four championship team deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.

I don't think most of the players on those teams were overrated, but Swann probably is. Stallworth was better. He was more productive for longer, and he could make the spectacular catches, too.

 

Not like swann. You do know Swann was instrumental in all those playoff runs and super bowls? He was the best at making those difficult catches. There is literally no one since then who can match how he caught the ball. The HOF panel knew it. You guys act like it was charity.

 

There is a lot more to the game than pretty catches. If there wasn't, then Odell Beckham, Jr. would be headed to the Hall of Fame.

Go back and watch Super Bowl XIV for just one example. The Steelers were losing in the fourth quarter. Their last two drives had ended in interceptions and they faced a third-and-8 at their own 27. Then Stallworth beat his man, made a hell of an over-the-shoulder catch, and raced in for the 73-yard touchdown that turned the game around. He made an even more difficult catch for 45 yards to set up the Franco Harris touchdown that put the game away.

I don't think it was charity. I think they got so caught up in the spectacular that they forgot to recognize the production. I'm glad he got in because he was a great Steeler, but more importantly, because he used his speech to campaign for Stallworth to get in, too.

 

I know that Stallworth catch well. Great slight leaning back grab while still maintaining his balance. But it doesn't compare to Swann's ability to track and adjust to the ball. Stallworth was great but Swann was a master. He also played a pivotal role in XIV. A 47 yard pass from TB to put the Steelers ahead. His stats were actually pretty incredible for a guy that really played only 7 years. We don't have a dynasty without either Swann or Stallworth, to me they both deserved to be in the HOF.

I think some people, not necessarily you, are getting too hung up on the stat line and subsequent accolades of today, especially when comparing players now to guys who played 40-50 years ago. Rules were different, it was more of a physical game, less number of games, and much less of a pass happy league...Swann and Stallworth, along with maybe Harold Carmichael, Biletnikoff and one or two others were the best receivers of that era.

 

Stallworth overcame the rules of that era and three years mostly lost to injury to put up some amazing numbers. He was still great well into h is 30s. Longevity matters, too.

 

Both were great and deserve to be in the HOF!

 

it really is amazing how much the game has changed. Swann never even had 1,000 yards receiving in a season.

John Stallworth was ranked 13th in NFL history in career receptions when he retired with 537. He is now tied with Dez Bryant and Dwayne Bowe for 159th. Hines Ward is 18th with 1,000 career receptions.