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Warner sums up Allar in 6 minutes

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, May 9, 2026 at 6:55 AM.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I think he’s just stating an opinion there, one that seems pretty obvious to me. Rooney said McCarthy was brought on to find the next franchise QB, makes sense he would choose the one he thinks has the best change to get there.
     
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  2. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    to coin a phrase?
    :smiley1:
     
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  3. First and goal

    First and goal Well-Known Member

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    I think how the Allar story works out is very simple. Making it happen...very complex.

    Guy scores very high on the things you can't teach. Size, athleticism, arm strength, etc.

    Guy scores very low in the things that can be coached. Footwork, processing and decision making, understanding and awareness. We can all talk about why but none of that matters now. He enters his rookie season in a brand new (even to us) environment and a clean slate.

    The sports world is littered with coaches who know a lot more than me and look at a player and said "I can fix that". There are a lot of great stories of that working out in all sports. There are even more stories that we never hear about because they never turned into success. I was not a fan of Allar with what little I watched of him at PSU, but now I hope for nothing more than him and/or Howard busting out. I have no doubt that leading up to the draft MM told the FO that he believes he can turn Allar into an NFL QB and that was the driving force in the pick. It's just one more reason why the new staff and new start will be a great watch.
     
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  4. First and goal

    First and goal Well-Known Member

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    And this before the diva era when player salaries got so out of control that coach's hands were tied.
     
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  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    This is the kind of stuff I love to read, made a profile tape with 5 different angles. Thats coaching.

    Have no way of knowing if that kind of thing was being done prior but my gut tells me they didnt take that approach.
     
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  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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    I wonder if this would have helped Ben to reach his potential
     
  7. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Ben was not a student of the game like Manning and Brady. If Ben had Manning's brain... he probably would have won 2 more SBs.
     
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  8. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    I don't think Ben could have ever played that way. Making unscripted, playground plays were his specialty. He could never have been a follow the script, trust the process kind of QB.
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

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    There is a clip somewhere of Aditi interviewing Allar and asking him if he thinks he passed his meeting with McCarthy and he says I think I did.

    Guess he did.
     
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  10. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    IMO this is like a classical guitar player trying to tell a jass guitar player how to play the guitar. They both are great players with different thought processes. Also Ben, and Mannings playoff statistics are about almost identical .
     
  11. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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    Yes

    Neither were good
     
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  12. SGSteeler

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    Both won it all twice...
     
  13. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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    Ben helped win one helped loose one and absolutely sucked in one where the long snapper played better
     
  14. Joel Buchsbaum

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    It’s a really good clip. Drew Allar was one of the 30 players we brought in, and we didn’t waste the opportunity.Mike McCarthy was working on Allar’s stance. I think he want to widen it a bit — along with his back leg placement and getting his entire body into the throwing motion. A good beat writer who actually understands quarterback mechanics should’ve asked McCarthy for specifics on what they were cleaning up. But of course, they didn’t.

    Allar is a little behind technically, but that’s fixable. Most quarterbacks taken in the third round end up starting at least 20 games in their careers. The plan is to have him ready to start by 2027 after two full camps.Here’s hoping we just added another name to the list of successful third-round QBs who won Super Bowls — right alongside Nick Foles and Russell Wilson.
     
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  15. SGSteeler

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    This pretty much sums it up. The "uncoachables" look good. The arm, the size, the frame, etc... The "coachable" items are the things that he was bad at. Footwork, accuracy, processing, reading the defense, awareness... there's a ton there that needs to be fixed. Hopefully McCarthy can get him to improve all of it. I'd be hopeful that we could improve at least some of it.
     
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