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What is the right offense for Drew Allar?

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Joel Buchsbaum, May 2, 2026 at 5:36 PM.

  1. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Drew Allar has the tools to succeed in the NFL, but he needs the right system — especially in Year 1. The ideal offense for him is a play-action heavy, pro-style scheme that plays to his strengths while protecting his weaknesses.

    Core Foundations:1. Play-Action Threat
    Allar is at his best as a play-action quarterback with a big arm. Pair him with a solid ground game and he becomes dangerous. Play-action slows down the pass rush, gives him an extra half-second to set his feet, and lets him attack down the field. A key weapon here should be targeting the tight end — especially someone like Pat Freiermuth a PSU player.. Allar’s height and vision from the pocket allow him to see over the line and deliver strikes to TEs on seams and crossing routes. This should be a foundational part of the offense.


    2. Leverage the Big Arm

    Allar can zip 8-10 yard outs and comeback routes with elite velocity. The offense should feature these throws regularly. He throws with good zip and can drive the ball into tight windows on the sideline. He should be king in the come back routes. Use his arm talent — don’t hide it.Scheme Philosophy: Keep It Simple (Vanilla)

    Allar is smart but not the type who should be asked to process 4- or 5-wide receiver sets early in his career (except on obvious 3rd-and-long). Focus on:
    • Pro sets
    • 11 personnel (1 RB, 1 TE, 3 WR)
    • 12 personnel (2 TE sets)
    This gives him maximum protection - 75% of the time and simplifies his reads. The offense should emphasize quick clock development to fit the 3 seond window: The primary receiver → secondary read. That’s it. Get the ball out on time and let the scheme create easy throws. Mike McCarthy and his staff are excellent at quarterback development — far better than what we had in 2025. They can clean up Allar’s footwork and mechanics in Year 1 while building confidence through a structured, rhythm-based passing game.


    3. Mobility & QB Runs
    Allar isn’t going to be a dual-threat runner for big yardage, but his size and physicality make him excellent for:
    • QB sneaks
    • Designed short runs (3 yards or less) behind man coverage
    • Scrambles when the pocket collapses (only when he sees green grass)
    He needs to develop a strong sense for when to run versus when to throw the ball away in 2026.

    Expectations:


    By design, Allar shouldn’t start in 2026. Let Aaron Rodgers (if he signs) handle the heavy lifting. But do give Drew meaningful reps — at least 6 quarters of preseason football so he can “cook” and build chemistry with the offense. The goal for Year 1? Be brilliant at the basics. Clean mechanics, sharp footwork, decisive reads, and consistent execution in a simple, play-action friendly system. If McCarthy builds the offense around those principles, Allar has a real chance to develop into a high-level starter!


    -JB
     
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  2. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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  3. Joel Buchsbaum

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    100% wrong. This is a thread on how Drew Allar might fit, what he does well and how I think the Steelers can build and coachup his game. Specific plays and formations are mentioned by me.

    That thread is an admission that Penn State did not use Allar correctly.

    The mods, not yourself can merge them if they think they are the same.
     
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  4. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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    So it was a look at me post to get attention

    And now I was being polite and not saying that

    But here you are saying look at me

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    Your call little guy
     
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  5. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    Then why did you want the Steelers to draft Ty Simpson?
     
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  7. Da Stellars

    Da Stellars Well-Known Member

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    I was watching a video of Steve Smith talk about Germie Bernard.

    He said every NFL offense has incorporated all the different concepts that they are all basically the same now, with maybe 1 or 2 teams being exceptions.
     
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  8. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    The Joe Flacco just throw it deep offense :thumbs_up:
     
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  9. MojoUW

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    It seems that the robot overlords have correctly summarized the approach that every team ever has taken with a rookie QB. Throw to the TE and run a lot of play action.

    Maybe Matt Canada was just trying to prove he wasn’t an AI?
     
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  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    :facepalm:


    More equivocating.
     
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  11. Joel Buchsbaum

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    The Allar pick is starting to grow on me. He's a big, strong-armed QB who fits the AFC North! Cold weathered, windy conditions, and physical brand of football. The more I think about him, the more the pick makes sense.

    I wanted Simpson in round one, but he went several picks earlier than our selection in round one. I did say that if he's gone I liked Allar in round three and mock drafted him there.

    Allar is a leader in NFL jersey sales, which I find as crazy as he has not been issued a jersey number yet.

    My money is on #15.
     
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  12. Joel Buchsbaum

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    There's no such thing as a plug-and-play "experienced" rookie. Even the polished college guys are learning an NFL playbook, the internal clock ( that 2.5–3 second window ), OL protections, audibles, and reading defenses that are way more complex than what they saw in school. It just takes time. Smart OC's know this.

    Year 1: Lots of growing pains are to be expected. Mechanical regressions under pressure, questionable decisions, missed reads. The smart ones lean on coaching, pre-snap simplicity, and talent to win some games, but they're rarely "the answer "

    Year 2: A big leap for the good ones. They start processing faster, trusting their eyes, and making anticipatory throws. This is where you see real signs. A bust can seen in this stage.

    Year 3: Make-or-break. By then you usually know if the traits translate into consistent starter production or if it's bust territory.


    Plenty of guys who looked shaky or lost as rookies turned into legit franchise QBs by Year 2–3 (think Josh Allen's jump, or even Patrick Mahomes sitting a year then exploding). The ones who "mastered" it immediately are unicorns, and even they had bumps.

    The Steelers' coaching staff (especially if they keep emphasizing fundamentals) is a good team for that Year 1 redshirt/spot start growth into Year 2 flashes. I trust Mike M. Not that want to have a beer with him. That was the last coaches saying. In his case surlely a cheesesteak will do!

    The quality of QB play has gone down in the NFL. So it should surprise no one that the offense has been dialed down a little. With the money QB's make in college these day, you will get more battle ready QB's
     
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  13. Karl

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    This is really no single system or plan.
    All Offensive Coordinators want to get the game to slow down for new QB's. They've been trying that for years.

    Generally speaking, the basic formula is play solid defense, run the ball well and throw those high percentage passes - Screens, TE drag, circle routes, etc....
    If you run the ball well, the play-action gives you more time.

    I remember seeing Donavan McNabb in his 2nd season, wearing some kind of shutter glasses during passing drills. They open and close and he had limited time to read the field.

    The most important part for me is picking the right guy to lead your offense, then feeding playmakers to that offense.
    Also, varying the offense some year-to-year.
    I think Bo Nix has fell into the best situation possible for him. Josh Allen did too and one cannot leave out Mahomes; a lot of coaches would have slam lost it had he pulled a behind the back pass... Parcells would have had a heart attack.

    What's best for Allar?
    A year under Rogers would go a long way.
    What's best for Howard?
    Ditto.
    Both are projects and almost no one gives them a high ceiling.
    I think either could benefit like Nix if all goes to plan. Maybe they have another level to unlock? Just won't know till we see them.
     
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  14. Michael E

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    Hold and throw deep might work best for Allar, but that invites LOTS of sacks and lost yardage.

    I really don't know what would help Allar peak the quickest or if he's even capable. 3rd round felt too early. I'd have rather gotten Payton or Nussmeier in round 6/7, but one never knows.

    Allar was considered a first rounder in spring of 2025 had he come out, but that was again based on traits and his high school rating by recruiting services more than production.

    I just want to see an offense that isn't bland, doesn't rely on lots of short sideline passes or bubble screens or other endless non-sense. I want to see posts, quick slants and Ins and less quick-outs, button-hooks and dump-off/screens.
     
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  15. S.T.D

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    I tried explaining this to people before, but they thought I was stupid. There are only so many things you can do on a football field, and it's not about what you are doing, but when, and how well You are doing them against what your opponent is doing.
     
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  16. Steel_Elvis

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    There is a bit more than traits and high school ratings. He did have 25 TDs vs 2 ints in 2023, and then bumped his yards per attempt up to 8.4 in 2024 with 24 TDs and 8 ints. Not special by college standards, but also not a complete flop. As for film, it’s better than Richardson who was drafted (I think) 4th overall.

    He’s a lottery ticket. A better one than some we’ve seen recently.
     
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  17. Joel Buchsbaum

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    Former NFL MVP Kurt Warner thinks has Allar high ceiling. As does Joel Klatt.

    6'5" QB's with a rocket arm do not grow on trees

    In Allar's case, I think he had a poor group of WR's that failed to get open mid range to deep more often than not.
     
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  18. Brice

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    Maybe I am just reading too much into this Pick, but I think Drew Allar was hand selected to run Mike McCarthy's "Texas Coast" offense.

     
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  19. Joel Buchsbaum

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    This is the first time I heard of a " Texas Coast " offense, but there is such a thing we have the architect.

    Now he must implement it with the players.
     
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  20. jeh1856

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    Ditto

    Had to Google it

    I liked the theory
     
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  21. Karl

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    I think Klatt and Warner, don't carry a lot of weight.
    I'll stick with as I said, 'I don't know what the ceiling is' as Allar has, as you repeated, 'the measurables.'
    I am hoping for the best outcome, but I temper that with the right approach to getting those values.... I used Nix/Payton as an example.
     
  22. Joel Buchsbaum

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    Almost no one?


    Warner is a former NFL QB, and Klatt is a former college QB who is at the top of the media college football game. You can dismiss them if you must, but I consider them at the top of pundits for QB prospects. I can show you other media types who are not as good as them and said similar things.

    Who do you put stock into that says Allar doesn't have good upside? Chirs Simms? You are allowed to temper your enthusiasm. I said pre draft that Allar should be our 3rd round pick., so I am hardly a bandwagon guy for him. I absolutely love his upside and believe in his chances. He can be a top 16 NFL starting QB, similar to Joe Flacco.
     
  23. Joel Buchsbaum

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    The who in your opinion carries more weight then they do that went on record?
     
  24. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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    Since his statement is accurate and correct I will go with @Karl@Karl
     
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  25. Karl

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    My God... there's a ton. Most any Offensive Coordinator, Scout, Head Coach, College Coach... etc.
    I don't discount Kurt Warner single opinion. He's a nowhere to somewhere QB. Not sure that makes him an expert, else somebody would hire him to find QB's.
    But even the draft grades at best give him mixed results.
    It's tough to argue all these points.
    Just an FYI, I am all for either Howard or Allar proving the doubters wrong. I'll bet Omar is too.
     
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