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A Blasphemous Hypothetical

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by mytake, Apr 20, 2026 at 11:10 AM.

  1. mytake

    mytake Well-Known Member

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    Would you do this deal?

    The Steelers trade their 21st pick overall and their #1 for 2027 for the Raiders 2026 #1 overall to draft Mendoza and the rights to the Immaculate Reception for the duration of Mendoza's career. This means the Immaculate Reception play would not be highlighted or a part of any NFL media.
     
  2. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Mendoza is a good QB, but he's not as good as Burrow, Lawrence, Luck, etc... previous "sure thing" first rounders. Definitely not as good as Mahomes, Allen and Stafford.
     
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  3. First and goal

    First and goal Well-Known Member

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    I've seen a lot of people who use 2024 as the QB draft class standard. I've seen almost unanimous agreement that if Mendoza was in that class, he would have slotted behind Williams, Daniels, and Maye, but in front of Nix, McCarthy, and Penix. Most seem to think he's closer to the second group than the first group. I would not trade #21 and next year's first for a QB in that group.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Not a chance. He’s not first pick of the draft worthy by a long shot.
     
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  5. MojaveDesertPghFan

    MojaveDesertPghFan Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.

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    Steelers already have a National Championship QB on the roster. Why would you need two? :rolleyes:
     
  6. jeh1856

    jeh1856 13 good years RIP buddy

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    3 would be nice :shrug:
     
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  7. TuRnDoWnForWaTT

    TuRnDoWnForWaTT Well-Known Member

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    I'll keep the picks, the bragging rights, and respectfully pass.
     
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  8. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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  9. AskQuestionsLater

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    Why do people believe that Fernando Mendoza is this "Savior of the Franchise" now?!

    He isn't even the best QB in the class.
     
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  10. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton Well-Known Member

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    Who do you rate above Mendoza? As crazy as it may sound, I actually like Drew Allar better than Mendoza. I hope the Steelers draft Allar with one of their 3rd round picks if he's still available. He could be the steal of the draft.
     
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  11. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    :drinks:

    For me, it is Carson Beck, Drew Allar, Ty Simpson, Fernando Mendoza and then Taylen Green. If anything, Taylen Green is such a wildcard that if he can get into the correct system, one can win quite a bit with him. His problem though is getting into that style of system then progressing.
     
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  12. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Taylen Green
    Athletic Qb
    We all know what that means
    End of story
    You must be a prophet
    To keep seeing things in Allar that nobody else sees
    Ty Simpson with one season
    Lower Expectations
     
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  13. HeinzMustard

    HeinzMustard Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, I wouldn't care if Steelers didn't draft a QB at all this year. Grab a FA QB off the scrap heap, even if Rodgers doesn't come back.
     
  14. Steel_Elvis

    Steel_Elvis Staff Member Mod Team

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    Mendoza looked considerably better to me than any other QB in this class, but even then I’m not sure he’s even a first round talent, never mind #1 overall.
     
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  15. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Every single NFL team and scout has Mendoza the #1 QB in the draft and will in fact be the first player selected. We might not see another QB taken until the mid second round.
     
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  16. AskQuestionsLater

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    He looked consistent largely thanks to Curt Cignetti and that historic Indiana Team. Staring down receivers, not progressing through his reads, taking over three seconds to throw the football and isn't able to throw accurately consistently on the move or vs. pressure isn't what I would call consistent from the individual's point of view. Carson Beck did that much better versus Fernando while recovering from a UCL Tear in his throwing elbow. Add the fact that it will take Fernando more time to adjust to the NFL versus Carson given how Fernando comes from a College Offense vs an NFL one and the negatives against Fernando add up even more.


    That said, even if Beck is included, there is no First Round QB in this class anyways as I see it. Beck would be about the closest one. Major reason he isn't is because he isn't able to throw consistently on the move; limiting him to certain Offenses. Everything else I just described Fernando having struggles with is the opposite for Beck.
     
  17. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    The NFL's Opinion and my own are two different things. NFL Scouts have far more resources to work with than I do; namely when it comes to interviews and getting more info on the person behind the player. The biggest similarities that we both share is both of us do see the games these players play.


    For me, Fernando isn't worthy of a First Round Grade and much, much less from the Number One Overall one.
     
  18. AskQuestionsLater

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    What I saw in Allar is what people wanted to see out of him last season before he got hurt. His release time was getting faster, he was going throw his progressions better and he was much better at rhythm this season than in 2024. Long story short, Allar was progressing before his injury against the likes of Northwestern. Given how he looked both at the Combine and during his Pro Day though, I would say he is the 2nd best player overall. For me, the issues that he has are easily corrected since the foundational pieces for what an NFL QB should have are already there.


    He needs to go to a place where he can red shirt and get acclimated.
     
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  19. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    But
    Can the deer in headlights during big games be fixed?
     
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  20. AskQuestionsLater

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    That is a confidence issue. Not a positional based one. I believe it can be; provided he is in the right system.


    For me, Mike McCarthy would be such a system. Red shirting would be a great benefit to him as he can not only get acclimated to the NFL but also learn from a Top 10 All Time QB in Aaron Rodgers. As I see it, it would be a win win for him.
     
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  21. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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  22. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    I agree about redshirting
    95% of qbs coming out of college need to sit and learn
    They aren’t and that’s why most of them fail
    NFL doesn’t give them a chance
     
  23. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    The top 2 picks in the draft seem set with Las Vegas picking Mendoza and the Jets are making it pretty clear that they are taking David Bailey from Texas Tech. The question is who will the Cardinals select with the #3 pick? Could be Jeremiah Love, Arvell Reese maybe Sonny Styles?
     
  24. AskQuestionsLater

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    Klint Kubiak seems to agree with me as well. Fernando is not a Day One starter by any stretch of the imagination for the baseline skills required to be one are not with him at this current time. Add in the fact that the Raiders still need to overhaul their Offensive Line and putting Mendoza back there is no different than David Carr's infamous Rookie Season.


    Mendoza needs to sit it down and learn the game. Between the two though, Allar's ceiling is far higher for the requisite skills, along with natural traits, surpass his.
     
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  25. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    No lol weird hypothetical, but I dig it.

    Honestly, I wouldn't trade anything of value to move up for Mendoza. I'd rather trade value for the myriad of players I currently have rated ahead of him as NFL prospects in the 2027 draft. Mendoza is a fine prospect, but I see his ceiling in the Flacco/Cousins range. I don't think he has what it takes to be a franchise changer on his own.
     

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