"Pittsburgh Is A B-Minus Team"

i think were in a good position. If Howard works out weve found our qb and we can strengthen the rest of the roster. If he doesnt, we should get a good pic in 27 and even trade up a little if need be to get our franchise Qb. Steelers just have to do their homework and give the rookie good support this time.

 

I'll give you the quick playoff exits but you can't claim mediocrity when they had winning seasons in all but one year (a year they had a backup and a backup of a backup starting at QB).

The difference is the A and B level teams were not always A and B level from year to year. NE is a prime example. Tomlin's teams were remarkably consistent.

 

Tomlin sucked. Glad he's gone.

 

No doubt the steelers were great in close game and winning so many ugly game when they was outplayed,it was a strength for Tomlin especially in the last 6-7 years(similar to chuck pagano with the colts when the colts had a decent record under him despite poor point differencial and often outplayed or outcoached) , but despite that, the Steelers were only 49-46-1 in their last 96 games, including the playoffs... The draft would have been more exciting in recent years with some high picks; the Steelers would be in a better position right now.

 

Let me guess you left out the first 11 wins from 2020 to come up with this stat .

 

I said the last 96 games....That's equivalent to 6 seasons of 16 games season

 

I think it would be better if we weren't actively going to do everything we possibly can to be the 7th seed and pick at ~ 20 again even though we have basically no chance to do more than lose a WC game.

 

2020-12 wins
2021- 9 wins
2022- 9
2023- 10
2024- 10
2025- 10
They have 60 wins in the last 6 seasons get out of here with that cherry picking math .

 

B- seems fair, maybe even generous.
"What is the vision?" Is something I have been on for a while - Omar.
They get a lot of buffer because they draft some guys and sign some guys, but all have been 2nd and 3rd tier players.
We've also have not had a legit QB in a few years.
And WR took a couple years to even address somewhat.

I do lay some of that blame on Coaching. They absolutely fell into a rut and even got behind the times.
That also falls on the front office in not pulling rank and saying 'look, we need to make some changes.'

I like Aaron Rogers, but I don't like depending on the 42/43-year-old QB.

But the slate is wiped clean and we have what we have from Free Agency and 12 picks.
Usually, Free Agency sets up the draft. I can't see a clear plan currently, but the draft could change that.
I really need to see a BPA or two... not just need.

 

But 49-46-1 in the last 96 games,this is my point.

It's not just 20 games, it's 96 games, that's a lot... otherwise I could say the Steelers were 10-13 in their last 23 games, but I'm not going to do that.

Who cares if you start 11-0 when you're only 1-5 in the final 6 games and you can't beat the Browns in the playoffs? Or start the season 10-3 and don't win another game after that? Or finish the season 7-2 like in 2022 but still miss the playoffs?

Tomlin always found a way to break the average, but it didn't mean anything in the end outside to cost them a chance to have a high draft pick, and that hurts the team.

 

Except you included playoffs so it's not the same as a 16 game season. Picking a range that starts or ends in the middle of a season is suspicious.

 

Playoffs matter....

 

They don't matter sh!t if you do not win super bowl

 

Yeah, and I'd kill for an AFC Championship appearance and defeat....like we witnessed in 90's and 00's. Hell.... a playoff win would be extraordinary at this point. The bar has dropped for Steelers fans and it's a damn shame.

 

Yea, coaching was a factor. Maybe they coached up some players into better ones but my sense is we saw too much player regression rather than progress for the last half decade. Sure, no amount of coaching was gonna make Kendrick Green a starting center (let's see how he does in CLE this year). But the Dotson failure was all on coaching. And Bush appears to have been a coaching thing as well considering his last couple seasons.

For the draft, I expect the first pick (whichever position) to be a Day 1 starter. Ideally, the 2nd pick also makes the field before mid-season. After that, load up for depth and hope a player or two 'surprises' .

 

B- gets you to the playoffs - 43% of the teams get in - and then a one and done. "Same Old Song And Dance", as was once sung.....

 

correct - many are FINE w complacent. Many HERE are it seems.

there is no KILLER INSTINCT in this ownership.

 

yeah, it was STORY turned into a MOVIE

the NEVER ending STORY

Limahl Lives!!!!

 

Agree.
The issue I have when it comes to the draft....
If there's a Mica Parsons on the board, and you pick a FB 'cause you need one' - that is a problem. (unless you know something most everyone else doesn't know about him - he did slip to 12)
I was floored when Smith-Njigba slid to 20 for example.. (I know someone will bring up Jones, but I think Jones hasn't brought as much to the table and we probably could have drafted or signed a FA to get as much production - but as you mention, coaching might have trashed that potential... and QB as well)

Danged if don't, danged if you do.

 

A grade of B-? Who cares? Since I'm no longer (and it has been a long time) looking to get into a top university, I could not care less about grades. The Steelers are a 2025 10-7, one and done playoff team. 2026 is TBD and we'll get a first look with voluntary workouts tomorrow, and will know the final result by February 14.

FTR I did not jump for joy when there was another report that the Steelers have had the best FA period so far (or whatever it said) and also wouldn't care if the mark was A+ or F.

 

IMHO... Steelers are D+ team.... C- at best.

 

That's just dumb start counting the last five games of a season, you want to leave out the other 11 wins that season to fit your lame narrative .

 

As always he skirts the honest discussion, and moves the goal post around from point to point to accommodate what he wants to believe, even it it is far from the truth.

 

What many of You fail to mention when You say 43% of teams make the playoffs is it not the same 43%. Yet We made the playoffs most of the time, but let's not mention that.

 

Wow your being more positive than I
F in my book