Freiermuth

S.T.D · Mar 30, 2026 at 9:01 PM

Steelcityboyz said: ↑

Ok Gonzales sucks Gronk is the Goat.
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LoL. I'm not saying Gonzalez sucks, he just sucked at blocking, he was a very good wr. I'm just saying that Gronk was the complete package. I believe that old boy from Dallas was a complete TE(I can't remember his name)also, not as good as Gronk, but good.
I've seen other TEs that were better blockers than Gronk, but not better Wrs, and I've seen other TEs that were better Wrs than Gronk, but not better blockers. He could do both equally great. That's all I'm saying.

Steelcityboyz · Mar 30, 2026 at 9:04 PM

Fair enough, You have your opinion and I have mine.. Have a good night!

PWP · Mar 30, 2026 at 10:48 PM

S.T.D said: ↑

LoL. I'm not saying Gonzalez sucks, he just sucked at blocking, he was a very good wr. I'm just saying that Gronk was the complete package. I believe that old boy from Dallas was a complete TE(I can't remember his name)also, not as good as Gronk, but good.
I've seen other TEs that were better blockers than Gronk, but not better Wrs, and I've seen other TEs that were better Wrs than Gronk, but not better blockers. He could do both equally great. That's all I'm saying.
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And now the Steelers have the best blocking TE to ever play the game ...The more tape I watch the more amazed I am with Washington..

HeinzMustard · Mar 31, 2026 at 9:59 AM

S.T.D said: ↑

LoL. I'm not saying Gonzalez sucks, he just sucked at blocking, he was a very good wr. I'm just saying that Gronk was the complete package. I believe that old boy from Dallas was a complete TE(I can't remember his name)also, not as good as Gronk, but good.
I've seen other TEs that were better blockers than Gronk, but not better Wrs, and I've seen other TEs that were better Wrs than Gronk, but not better blockers. He could do both equally great. That's all I'm saying.
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Jason Witten. He grew up about an hour from where I live. Heath Miller was even closer. Both great TE's.

Blast Furnace · Mar 31, 2026 at 11:07 AM

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Is what I am afraid of .. Washington is Bigger, Faster, and more Athletic just not as polished of a route runner...I would grade PF as about 80 of 100 as a pass catcher .. I would grade Washington at about a 70 as a pass catcher ..

Now as a heads up blocker on LB types it's Washington by a mile ..Heads up against a DT type and PF really can't even do it while Washington is as good as a OL at it ..Pulling and blocking on the move Washington is the best TE in the NFL at it and PF can do it some if kicking out the right type of Defender...

Blocking I would give PF a 65 ..Washington gets a 100 he puts on a clinic..As such Washington has more value to the Team than PF ..I hope MM sees it and uses Washington a lot on the field .. I don't really care about touches just his overall snap count and it's value to the Team ...

We all know how draft position and contracts tend to help decide playing time , I hope in this case they just let the player with the most overall benefit to the Team gets the snaps ...
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He may be a few ticks faster on the stop watch but his playing speed is well below Muths. Washington isnt doing any of the seem work Muth has done. Muth is a much better receiving TE and threat overall.

Washington provides mismatches that they should take advantage of but hes never going to be this great pass catching TE fans want him to be. And hes just going to keep getting hurt because the only way to tackle him is taking out his legs and already has knee problems. He also needs to learn how to run with that football, carries that thing way out from his body, been 3 seasons and still doing that.

PWP · Mar 31, 2026 at 11:26 AM

Blast Furnace said: ↑

He may be a few ticks faster on the stop watch but his playing speed is well below Muths. Washington isnt doing any of the seem work Muth has done. Muth is a much better receiving TE and threat overall.

Washington provides mismatches that they should take advantage of but hes never going to be this great pass catching TE fans want him to be. And hes just going to keep getting hurt because the only way to tackle him is taking out his legs and already has knee problems. He also needs to learn how to run with that football, carries that thing way out from his body, been 3 seasons and still doing that.
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Fair points and I agree PF is the better pass catching threat as I graded.. However, I still disagree on overall threat .. I don't think the TE spot will be a huge focus in the passing game .. The main reason is the spread helps AR see the field better and what the D is trying to do, I see a lot less tight formations..

I just value the blocking ability of Washington more than the passes either may get ..He can block any type of Defender either heads up or on the move , this is huge for play calling ..

Heck he is so good on the move he may get the H-Back role some as well ?

forgotten1 · Mar 31, 2026 at 11:37 AM

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Fair points and I agree PF is the better pass catching threat as I graded.. However, I still disagree on overall threat .. I don't think the TE spot will be a huge focus in the passing game .. The main reason is the spread helps AR see the field better and what the D is trying to do, I see a lot less tight formations..

I just value the blocking ability of Washington more than the passes either may get ..He can block any type of Defender either heads up or on the move , this is huge for play calling ..

Heck he is so good on the move he may get the H-Back role some as well ?
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Maybe even play Safety

PWP · Mar 31, 2026 at 12:01 PM

forgotten1 said: ↑

Maybe even play Safety

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Maybe just maybe ..lol I still would have liked to see our D with him at Single High ..lol

NorthernBlitz · Mar 31, 2026 at 12:19 PM

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Fair points and I agree PF is the better pass catching threat as I graded.. However, I still disagree on overall threat .. I don't think the TE spot will be a huge focus in the passing game .. The main reason is the spread helps AR see the field better and what the D is trying to do, I see a lot less tight formations..

I just value the blocking ability of Washington more than the passes either may get ..He can block any type of Defender either heads up or on the move , this is huge for play calling ..

Heck he is so good on the move he may get the H-Back role some as well ?
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This is certainly an issue with a big schematic shift (assuming that's what happens). We needed two guys who were starters at TE (although we played PF like a TE3 because...well, I don't know why) because we ran so many 2 and 3 TE sets.

But now we're very likely be be an 11 team. So having 2x starting TEs isn't great.

If we don't take a WR early, maybe we'll still run a bunch of 12 and have Washington in-line with Freiermuth more in the slot?

Hopefully MM will adjust the offense to suit the guys we have. And if our 2nd TE is better to have on the field than our 3rd WR, hopefully that's something we don't shy away from.

Personally, I'd try to trade Freiermuth if I could get any kind of reasonable compensation (I'd be OK with picks next year too probably).

S.T.D · Mar 31, 2026 at 2:30 PM

HeinzMustard said: ↑

Jason Witten. He grew up about an hour from where I live. Heath Miller was even closer. Both great TE's.
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Yeah Witten. I couldn't remember his name for anything.

S.T.D · Mar 31, 2026 at 2:31 PM

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And now the Steelers have the best blocking TE to ever play the game ...The more tape I watch the more amazed I am with Washington..
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That's why I think it would be stupid to faze him out of the game. He can be used in so many ways.

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