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Prediction: Beck will be a Steeler

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Mar 25, 2026 at 6:26 PM.

  1. nor

    nor Well-Known Member

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    If I were in my early 20's, making $4 million a year, and thought I wasn't going to make it in the NFL, I'd stay in college at $4 million a year as long as possible. I wonder if he's thinking the same thing.

    Will Howard signed with the Steelers for 4-years, $4.4 million. $248,000 guaranteed.
     
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  2. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    That's okay if you don't want to debate what I see. Do you value stats on evaluation?

    Beck ran it for yards in 2025. Yes he did!

    Beck had 62 yards on 43 attempts for a lowly 0.7 Yards per carry last year. This is often vs Big East competition and as a 6 year college guy who is a fairly bright man who knows when to run SUCKS. In fact vs. ranked teams he has a negative rushing average. So when runs he does not even average a yard. Still extrapolating? Digest a bit more than imagine how he would do in the NFL.

    I think his pocket mobility is a minus.

    This tackles your reply of the 40 times he did not run, nor has non't run in two years!

    Again by my eye he is a 4.85 to 4.95 guy. That why he hasn't run and speed drills vs. NFL scouts.
     
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  3. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Matt Schuab ( class of 2004 ) was a good strating QB as well. He lasted 17 years in the NFL, statred 93 games, and made 2 pro bowls.
     
  4. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    You’re jumping into a debate that has been ongoing. Not wanting to repeat myself is not the same as not wanting to debate, you can go read what I wrote already. No snark, just have made my case for it already with other board members.

    As for stats, I don’t believe I have included any of that in my prior answers, Im going by what I see on tape.

    His being slow didnt stop him running for a game winning TD.



    You’re talking to a guy who has fawned over athletic QBs for years and even then I didnt care about 40 times. It’s one of the most useless metrics. I care more about their elusiveness, Im not looking for HR threat from my QB.
     
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  5. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Understood. Now if you care to highlight what are talking about on film his mobility of lack thereof can be viewed. I'm not saying he can't run at all. All QB's can.

    I am saying he will be easy to sack in the NFL. He gets rid of the ball very quickly . A 1 or 2 read type he mostly is. And he will throw lots of interceptions if given the chance to start in the NFL. On 3rd down and 5+ yards Beck will struggle the NFL.

    Under duress he is sub par. Like I said he threw 12 picks last year vs. weak college competition. Just wait until he hits the NFL.

    I view his NFL ceiling as that of a #2 QB who may start for a few games due to injury or desperation when a teams #1 QB is stuggling.

    I also view his off the field habits as questionable as there are very few successful QB's in the past who had his playboy lifestyle -- partying ways, girls, and everything else that surrounds them.

    No, I don't know beck, but I do know some peole who have the 411 on the man.
     
  6. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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  7. Joel Buchsbaum

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    Man -- he did have a player in 5 yards around on him in that rushing play! Seriously I am more than sure posters on the board could have run for a score too .

    And are you using that clip as a highlight of his rushing ability?

    A little football secret. All QBs can run on man defense when the defensive line has zero pressure and there isn't a player within 5 yards of the QB.
    Beck didn't beat anyone to a spot.

    Now I value a running QB, but value it behind a QB's arm, accuracy and QB smarts.

    - JB
     
  8. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Exactly and keep in mind that is the basis of my prediction because of scheme fit with MM. I’m not trying to make the argument he is some amazing QB, Im saying the things he is good at will mesh well with MM’s offense.

    Cashing checks his arm cant pay for is a good way to put it but I wonder if that has more to do with where his arm was at pre injury? I havent watched any of those games but I have read his arm was more lively then, it would make sense that it would be hard for him to lay off those passes when he made them in the past. Two years removed from surgery, maybe he gets some of that arm strength back.
     
  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Yeah but I thought he was a slug.

    A little football secret, when a pocket QB decides to run its because they see daylight. The fact that he scored a TD there and in other clips picks up first downs is all that matters. His 40 times does not.
     
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  10. NorthernBlitz

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    Sure. Brady and Purdy were selected in the 6th and 7th too.
     
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  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Payton is another guy they were looking at. Interesting.

    Beck has nice scores there and no red in his ledger.
     
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  13. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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  14. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    That Pavia keeps popping up on my radar.... if only he was 3 inches taller and 20 lbs heavier.... sigh.

    This is a class of backups for the future. Do the Steelers grab one on Day 3 to dump Rudolph next season?
     
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  15. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    In a normal draft year with a QB already in place I might agree but the Steelers have the extras this year and no long term QB so why not take that chance? Steelers have pick #s 76, 85, and 99.

    Some notable QBs taken in that range:

    J. Brissett
    R. Wilson
    N. Foles
    R. Gannon
    M. Schaub

    If nothing else, the Steelers can dump Rudolph to save a few bucks on the chance that lightning could strike.
     
  16. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I have a feeling Rudolph will not be on the roster come September.
     
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  17. KnoxVegasSteel

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    What do you mean? Pavia is 6'4". Don't believe me? Just ask him. Hahaha. Diego Parvo in black and gold would be the last straw for me with the steelers.
     
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  18. NorthernBlitz

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    If you don't have a QB and you think someone can be a medium term starter, taking the chances makes some sense.

    But if you think a guy can be a medium term starter, you probably shouldn't wait until the 3rd to take him IMO.

    I won't be surprised if we use (waste?) one of those 3rds on a QB. And if that happens, I'll hope they succeed (just like I hope that Howard succeeds).

    While there are guys that make it from that spot, my guess is that the chances are small. Just like the odds of Howard being Brady are also small.

    If we're going to waste a 3rd round pick, I'd probably prefer to trade it to someone and try to get a 2nd next year.
     
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  19. NorthernBlitz

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    How big are his hands?
     
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  20. KnoxVegasSteel

    KnoxVegasSteel Well-Known Member

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    Big enough to beat off defenders.
     
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  21. pczach

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    Remember, some of those numbers are for accumulating stats by being in school longer and playing more games. Also, playing with elite players all around them with a great offensive line and receivers helps the numbers.

    Quarterbacks that play more seasons in college are playing more time at a more highly developed level than quarterbacks that are younger and don't play as many seasons in school. That also means that there is generally less expected future development because of their age, vast play experience, and the coaching that they have received.
     
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  22. MojoUW

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    I can not think of any examples of college QBs that played more than four seasons, had a 5th year breakout, and then didn't blossom in the pros....just nothing comes to mind....not a thing.....dang!

    In all seriousness, that is a valid point.

    Here is my sticking point....Beck didn't get better. At least by solely looking at the season long stats, which I realize can lie to me, but they are the same for all his years as a starter: https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/carson-beck-1.html

    Where is the development?
     
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  23. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a big Beck fan but he was a starter for only three seasons, and he did play well enough to lead his team to the championship game last season.
     
  24. Steel_Elvis

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    Rumor has it we may have a QB on our roster who actually won a Natty.
     
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  25. NorthernBlitz

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    I don't know anything about NCAA QBs because I don't watch college.

    But I like QBs who use athleticism to buy time and make throws over running.

    I think I remember Ward said something like this about Ben. "it's so nice to have a QB that keeps his eyes down field when he breaks the pocket."
     
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