Prediction: Beck will be a Steeler

Carson Beck isnt a Pro though. Not yet anyway. He will be drafted for certain but until then, he is still a College Athlete.


To refute your other claim about him needing lots of things, the same applies with every QB. However, I stated two in particular; the right Head Coach and the right Organization. I specifically stated these two for having both greatly increases a young QBs chances for success. Drake Maye is the current best example of these. Bo Nix another.


For your final claim about how is he going to work without specific personnel and coaching?! Answer; traits and tools. There are traits and tools that translate to the NFL; regardless of level. This is important as such variables are dependent on the individual rather than external forces.



Beck has shown he has both the traits and tools needed to be an NFL QB. How good he can be?! That remains to be seen.

 

With the new reality of the transfer stuff and all the extra eligibility; guys aren’t really college athletes either.

He doesn’t go to 4 classes a term. He’s likely not social with a bunch of 19 year old undergrads.

He plays football. Was paid to do so.

He’s a pro.

 

Not quite.


Again, College Football and the NFL are worlds apart. The fields are different. The rules are different. The Football itself is bigger in the NFL than it is in college. Most notably, the overall skill gap is far greater.


College Football and the NFL are as about as different as the taste of a Ribeye from the local steakhouse vs an A5 Waygu Steak from a Michelin star rated one. The differences are that massive.

 

If he’s not good enough to step up to play full time pro ball when coming from full time paid football; when will he be?

This all sounds like a ton of overthinking. Oh he COULD be good enough. Either he is or he isn’t.

If a guy plays multiple years of full time big time college football, at least one of them paid with no other responsibilities, and he’s still MAYBE a mid round caliber player how much more development is there really to be had?

How is this just not Pickett 2.0?

 

I guess he was enrolled in online classes post graduate.

 

My concern is his elbow. Will it hold up?

 

Wonder how he will feel about taking a seat on the bench behind Howard??

Bet that rubs him the wrong way.

 

1. simpson QB
2. beck QB
3. nussmier QB
3. klubnik QB
3. aller QB
4. robertson QB
4. payton QB
5. pavia QB
6. altmyer QB
6. mccown QB
7. moss QB
7. niblett WR

this should cover our draft in pittsburgh. now there will be no question of which guy will be better. 1 series per game for each.

 

I do see why all of that is tempting and I wouldn't hate the idea of them using one of their third-round picks on Beck, but the failures under pressure are concerning, especially because he was playing with all that experience this past season and still made the same mistakes. Some guys, like Roethlisberger, thrive under pressure. Others can work around it. Some simply can't handle it. So far, that has been Beck.

 

Don't his struggles with pressure also translate to the NFL? Maybe he overcomes and corrects those issues, but that is far from a sure thing.

 

Totally serious.

I think it is about two years now that Beck had nothing to do but play QB. At least one of those he got paid.

He had the time and access to the resources to improve his play.

Did he? I don’t know because I don’t pay enough attention to college ball. But from looking at the stat line, no. He replicated his past two seasons.

so the scouting folks are laying out here is that he’s kind of borderline as looking like an NFL starter. In his college seasons he’s never made any statistical improvement. No more yards, TDs, increased completion percentage, decreased INT rate, etc.

Why is he suddenly going to rocket to some new level as a pro? He already has a larger contract than he will as a rookie. So he won’t have more cash to pay for more private coaching. How far below a pro program is Georgia and Miami coaching? Based on stuff here; they’re ahead of the Steelers.

From what I can gather, Beck stinks under pressure, struggles with consistency in ball placement, and lacks the arm to do some of what he tries to do leading to incompletion or turnover.

That all sounds like a frisky backup QB. Kind of like a certain previous Steelers QB who shall remain nameless.

Like I’ve said, everyone overthinks the QB thing. Development gets trotted out like it involves Druids and alchemy.

The best development example of the past decade is likely Josh Allen or Jalen Hurts. Both of those guys have physical attributes light years ahead of Beck.

The best examples of guys who win with processing and decision making I can think of recently (Burrow, Purdy, even the QB who can’t be named) were able to play and play fairly effectively their first year. This thread seems to be saying Beck wouldn’t be able to do that.

So Beck doesn’t have high end traits, needs a decent developmental runway, and has an iffy track record at a lower level of competition.

Can’t wait to see him flourish in the NFL.

 

Well, that's one way to do it!

 

It sounds like he made between $4MM - $6MM last year.
https://sports.yahoo.com/articles/carson-beck-nil-deals-explained-103001370.html

IMO that makes him a pro even though he's playing in the NCAA instead of the NFL.

 

Professional college student sure

Not a pro football player until he actually is on a pro team

 

Agree. Around here, this is discussed a lot on local sports radio. UTK has 46 new players on the roster this season so coaches don't get the same guys coming back the next year. Gone are the days when a highly touted recruit would come in and stay for 4 years and become local legend. In Knoxville, it's guys like Peyton, Al Wilson, Reggie White (God rest his soul). The guys coming in now are just paid mercenaries and don't give a crap about the school or the community. Nico shít all over the university and fans while he was here. Good riddance to that POS.

Taking away one of the two annual transfer portal windows might help, but the NCAA needs to put more limitations on the number of transfers a player can make and change eligibility rules so these guys can't stay in college for 6 or more years without even being enrolled in classes. Let them transfer 1 time and then if they transfer again, make them have to sit out for a year. Give them 5 years to play 4.

On a related note, I ran into Kam Franklin over spring break at a resort in the DR. Dude is 20 years old and had more gold and diamonds on him and his teeth than I've ever seen. Rumor is that he turned down $7.5M from GA and OK to stay at Ole Miss. So do the math. The guy is an absolute monster and is going to wreck some QBs.

 

Start analyzing the 27 QB draft class.

 

Some of you guys are splitting hairs. The NCAA is a raging dumpster fire and especially football. These guys are getting paid to play and are professional athletes but are hiding behind some very antiquated rules and policies. Obviously not on the same average talent level as the NFL, but like minor leagues. I think calling these guys student athletes is incredibly disingenuous and is offensive to real college students. It is certainly offensive to me as a parent who had to foot the college bill for my kids who busted their asses while these primadonna athletes didn't even show up for classes and we're given diplomas they didn't earn. OK, rant over.

 

That $4 million he made can sure pay for some high-end quarterback gurus to work on his game like any pro quarterback. He has likely been getting the same coaching that professional football players get preparing for the draft and improving their game during the offseason.

If not, you would have to question why.

If you're getting paid to play, you're a pro.

 

What about the guy we already have in the bullpen in Howard? I'm not ok with continuing to waste mid round draft picks on backup QBs (or 1st in KP's case). Go get a legit 1st round talent QB or pay someone in FA. Quit f*cking around with these garbage heaps FAs and mid round backup QBs.

 

No, but they are more comparable to minor-leaguers than college students. They can focus only on football because many, like Beck, aren't attending classes at all.