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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by THREE RIVER SHIVER, Jan 16, 2026.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Primus
     
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  2. forgotten1

    forgotten1 Well-Known Member

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    thank gawd the boy is not alone
     
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  3. MeanJoeBlue

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    For any single game, a 42 year old QB has as high a ceiling as any time in their career.

    The problem is how often they will stay at that ceiling during a long season. And how often they will dwell at their basement level until they get a lot of rest.
    If the Steelers could figure out a way to play Rodgers every other week (and have him completely rested for the playoffs), then I'd be fine with bringing him back. But if they plan to make him the starter every week, then I'd rather they don't bring him back.

    (That's the problem with the suggestion to let the QBs compete in the pre-season. A fresh early season Rodgers will be better than the others. And a mid/late season Rodgers will be worse than the others.)
     
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  4. MeanJoeBlue

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    Considering that the Steelers finished above 9 wins the last 3 seasons, the idea that their ceiling is 9 wins is bad.

    For the playoff loss... I was too chicken to post my prediction at the time, but I think the playoffs hinged on that 2nd Cleveland game.
    When they lost, I figured they would lose the WC round game, due to having two all-out games (Browns then Ravens) and an over-40 QB not getting a break.
    If they had won the Browns game, they could have rested everyone for the Ravens game. That would have helped the team in general, but especially Rodgers. Instead of a 7-6 score at halftime and running out of gas in the 2nd half, a rested Steelers would have likely put away the Texans. (So I don't agree with the idea that they would go into the season expecting an automatically first playoff game loss.)
     
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  5. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Reading is fun
     
  6. forgotten1

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    DA MENTAL
     
  7. Steelpens65

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  8. HeinzMustard

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  9. Steelpens65

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    Say What You Will
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  10. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    The only other team to take a QB before the Steelers did was the Eagles a couple of spots before them and that wouldnt have changed anything.

    The point I am making is I believe his fall has more to do with circumstances than lack of talent. There werent a lot of teams looking for a starter. Titans and Giants in rd 1, Saints in rd 2. Then you have Cleveland doing Cleveland things.

    I figured hed go in the 3rd or 4th rd which is where most projections had him.
     
  11. AskQuestionsLater

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    So again.... having Will Howard in addition to another potential QB option drafted in 2026 doesn't forbid the team to draft one in 2027. There is no written nor unwritten law that enforces such an idea anyways. Maybe the team rolls into 2026 with Will Howard. Maybe the team waits still for Aaron Rodgers to start with Will as the backup.


    Regardless and, as I say again, none of this matters at present. Why?! This roster has one hole too many for the Steelers to even think about competing for the Conference Championship; much less a Super Bowl. Grabbing a QB and him being the one helps but that alone doesn't mean much if the rest of the team has been constructed of tissue paper. Get the guy yes but make sure the team around him is just as good; doubly so in the trenches.
     
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  12. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I really don't, but I'm not the one who has taken to lying about receiving PMs to get attention.
     
  13. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Because NFL teams are notorious for underdrafting quarterbacks. lol
     
  14. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    So no real rebuttal. Just more of you being a jerk and then you cry and report people meanwhile you just go around provoking everyone.

    My mistake for trying to be civil. You really are a piece of work.
     
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  15. jeh1856

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    Lying am I

    The funny thing about PM’s is if I don’t delete them they don’t go away

    Would you like me to share with the entire board the last oh say 6 that you sent me

    But that’s not Steeler related so run along and be a good little liar or I’ll spank you

    And please do not PM me anymore
     
  16. forgotten1

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  17. MeanJoeBlue

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    Just imagine some alternate timeline where the Browns stopped being the Browns from 2017 forward.

    To start off, they'd have an actual GM for the draft instead of an Exec VP of Football Operations. (Sashi Brown was fired on Dec 7th 2017 when they hired Dorsey.)

    For the 2017 draft, they pick Mahomes instead of Garrett. (Could probably trade down a few spots from the top pick to get more draft value, but let's say there are no trading partners.)
    They'd lose out on a DPoY, but he would be replaced by someone who would do more than a total of 3 tackles and 0 sacks in the two 2025 games against the Steelers.
    Already having a QB, they get back the 2nd round pick used on DeShone Kizer.
    (They had 3 1st round picks that year. Maybe they take TJ Watt with pick 29 instead of TE David Njoku.)

    Todd Haley arrives in 2018, and gets Mahomes on track after Hue Jackson's disastrous 2017 season. (Maybe the team keeps Haley around to get the offense to a respectable level, instead of whatever Freddie Kitchens did.)
    The ripple effect from Mahomes continues, and they don't have to use their 2018 1st round pick on Mayfield.
    They also don't trade for Watson, so besides the massive cap relief, they get back 3 1st round picks (2022-2024), a 3rd, and two 4ths (while losing the Houston 6th round pick).

    They'd still have to get their coaching straightened out (the Hue Jackson aftermath), but that team would have a lot more talent.
    And since these are the Browns-not-being-the-Browns, these players wouldn't flee for free agency as soon as they could.
     
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  18. Formerscribe

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    That was a rebuttal. NFL teams overdraft quarterbacks. It is extremely unlikely that a quarterback would fall farther than where teams value him in the manner you suggested. My apologies if my response was too snarky. I haven't had a decent night's sleep since I injured my neck in an automobile accident two weeks ago and I've had jeh following me around and being particularly jehish for days. I don't see how one snarky comment is comparable to what I have reported.
     
  19. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    You wrote that as if I had just sent you a PM. I did not. I don't delete PMs, either. The last one was September of 2025. The liar here is you.
     
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  20. Joel Buchsbaum

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    Rather the back and forth stuff, why doesn't each man produce the last PM to the other? We will check the dates and determine who's lying.

    Whomever backs out of the request is hiding something. A mod can grant you guys permission if necessary.

    Formerscribe and JEH: Ready, set, go!
     
  21. Joel Buchsbaum

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    No! In the draft you match value and need.

    I am not saying choose a projected 3rd round guy by draft sites in round 1.

    That would be reaching.

    Now in case you wondering, our NEED here is high.

    - JB
     
  22. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I have no idea how to share a PM on an open thread. The last one I sent to him was Sept. 25, 2025. Despite his false claim otherwise, I did not send one this week and I will not send him any in the future. His tender sensibilities cannot handle the direct communication, so I will respect that.
     
  23. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Acting as if I sent you one this week was a lie. I assume the moderators can see if that is true or not.
     
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  24. HeinzMustard

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    :popcorn:
     
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  25. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Simple . Each man copy and paste thier last message received. One can also copy and paste thier sent messages. It will be funny for one man who claimed to have never recived it. A mod can help you if needed.
     

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