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Steelers' draft strategy

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by blackandgoldpatrol, Mar 10, 2026.

  1. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I see nothing wrong with it. He has been totally, and miserably wrong before. :shrug:
    So no need not making money out of being wrong. This would be totally different if people, or teams are dumb enough to use what he says.
     
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  2. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Simply saying what he believes and being wrong isn't great, but it is honest. Giving opinions based on who pays him, however, is not. We can be wrong with integrity.
     
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  3. Steelvision

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    Yeah, these analysts present themselves as expert analysts and therefore by that definition, honest. If they're being swayed by management/money then what theyre presenting as honest opinion is actually false misinformation.
     
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  4. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    All I'm trying to say is if a guy is already thinking a certain player is good for a certain position, at a certain round, I see no problem with taking money to push a guy you already believe should be there.
    Example: He thought S. Sanders should go high even though he was wrong. How bad would it be for him to except money for a position he already felt.
     
  5. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We Are

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    But it was the answer
     
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  6. unblockededge

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    With Hoffman inboard, I don't see any clear massive holes. I'd love to see them just pick bpa based on how the board falls. Definitely need to avoid panicking and going WR in round 1 in the event there is a run on WR.
     
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  7. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Guy is putting out info but isn't selling it to anyone. No different than any other website with a big board.
    Teams pay for far better information than some talking head on TV.
     
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  8. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We Are

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    Exactly

    But as valuable as quarterback is and the fact we need one if Homer Simpson is available they will/should take him

    I don’t know about moving up much to do so
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

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    If they are meeting with RBs I kind feel that means JK has no future here. I wouldnt be surprised if they move him on draft day if not sooner. 6th rd pick or something like that, a 5th if they are lucky.
     
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  10. AskQuestionsLater

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    Kind of a Catch 22 here. Let me explain.


    Having a high floor but lower ceiling usually means the tools are there but the athleticism will always leave one wanting more. Such cases are positional dependent. Wide Receiver, Center (usually) and seldom EDGE along with QB are the go to options for such a category; Germaine Bernard, Connor Lew, Reuben Bain and Fernando Mendoza being such examples. Problem is, such cases are exceptions to the rule; not the rule itself.


    For the other way, basically the same thing but different positions. Such players have either every trait a coach could want or close to it but the coaching and system fit will be the deciding factors. OT, IOL (Center usually but not a deal breaker imo), IDL, EDGE and CB fit here. QB technically can as well but the QB Position is a group that needs its own set of rules as that position must be judged by a completely different set of factors. As for examples, Monroe Freeling, Francis Mauigoa (better for IOL), Keldric Faulk and Tacario Davis (his tape is a lot better than others are giving it credit for). Much like the previous example, exceptions to the rule but not the rule itself.



    Overall, teams want balance overall. More specifically, find the players who's traits and tools fit your system both the best and most consistent while being the most proficient.
     
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  11. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    So if I understand you correctly, for example, Jones was a coaching/fit problem not a player problem?
     
  12. AskQuestionsLater

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    To fully answer your question, I attribute Jones' slow development due to a combination of discipline on his part along with a coaching issue on Pat Meyers. Jones was turning the corner last season until he got hurt. If anything, from the first Browns meetup all the way to the Bears game, that was the best stretch of games Broderick had played his entire career.


    Overall, Jones' gifts at the Left Tackle position cannot be faulted. Whether or not he will play again (I sadly dont believe he will) remains to be seen.
     
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  13. Formerscribe

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    Very, because it compromises the integrity of what he is writing and saying on air.
     
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  14. Michael E

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    ...and TRUST the tape. IF he is the guy, a good football player then be thankful he ran a 4.6 and get him a round later than first thought.

    This is where teams fail, over and over, taking a good or bad 40, I mean 1/10th of a second in either direction, come on, and overriding whether the player is a PLAYER or just an athlete running into his own teammates and always out of position.

    If his tape isn't that good and he's slow, then yeah, pass, unless he falls to round 6 or 7 and maybe a top special teams guy.
     
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  15. Michael E

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    So because of Tomlin and his keep-it-close so we can lose it in the 4th quarter approach.

    If he had the entier All-PRO team on both sides of the ball, we'd still be 9-8 and probably have all of ONE blowout win on the year.

    So, SO glad that clown is gone.
     
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  16. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    And what pray tell Jason this to do with what I said that you quoted??? Do you feel better now???
     
  17. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    How if he already thinks a player should go that high would taking money change any of that??
     
  18. S.T.D

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    Makes me wonder of Warren's future. I mean they keep bringing in other guys, and drafting other rbs. We shall see what the new HC does.
     
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  19. Formerscribe

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    It influences how much he would stress the point, for one thing. It isn't just what a commentator says, but how much he stresses it.
     
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  20. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I do get your point, but I don't agree with it, and that's cool.
     
  21. jeh1856

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    For those who have a delusion that out 12 picks gives us a lot of room to move up in the draft that is not correct

    If you wanted to trade all 7 of the picks in rounds 4-7 you most likely would not have enough capital to move up one spot in the first round
     
  22. S.T.D

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    F**k all that.
    Since there has been great players taken in every round, and since there has been bust taken in the 1st, and every round. Why would we take 7 chances away to roll the dice on one?
     
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  23. jeh1856

    jeh1856 We Are

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    You can draw to an inside straight

    If you can draw one card the odds aren’t great

    If you can draw 7 cards now your odds aren’t as bad
     
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  24. Born2Steel

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    I do think it's very possible, even likely, we take a WR in the 1st or 2nd. The talent is just too good.
    Building the trenches is the best way to build a contender. A strong OL can make an average QB look great, and make an average RB a sensation. While a dominant DL can take away the entire opponents offensive game plan. That is where championships are won. So, I expect MM to draft a lot of linemen over the next few drafts.
     
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  25. MojoUW

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    If you think that ANYONE who talks about the NFL on television is an honest broker of information....I have a couple of bridges I would like to speak to you about.

    All these "insiders" like Schefter and Rapaport and Glazer....they don't get their info by being some 1940's noir style gumshoe detective; the sit on their phone and wait for an agent or team official to feed them the line. They all admit it. Google any discussion of how these guys do their jobs. They are getting "leaked" information from either the teams or the agents. It allows both teams and agents to communicate things for contracts without having to actually own what they are saying.

    It then gets plastered all over TV in soap opera for dudes nonsense.

    Very few people who talk, write, and opine about the NFL for a living are anything more than mouthpieces for the agendas of others. And if they are not that, they are usually attempting to advance their own agenda - former coaches trying to get back to the sideline, former players trying to burnish their legacy or prove they know the most, whatever the case may be.

    Almost none of the information regarding the NFL is without bias and spin.
     

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