2026 Free Agent Thread

Exactly, imagine you're talking to a friend who tells you he's "content" with his wife. You'll go home and you'll tell your wife "they're headed for divorce".

 

Peat is primarily a guard, which is where he was a Pro Bowl player for the Saints. I thought he played well last season.

 

It will depend who they will draft at this position this year

 

He was a fourth stringer

If they bring him back it will not be until after the draft if at all

 

He was a backup who ended up starting three games and it would have been more if he hadn't also suffered an injury. I wasn't suggesting that they count on him as a starter, but he has been a very good one in the NFL.

 

It's a weak draft for RB this year and the Seahawks only have four draft choices.

 

I've tried countless times, I just can't get the hang of it.

 

LoL. Yeah those numbers are close, and notice how You left out the TDs. LoL.
Yeah name all those Wrs who look good with any Qb. Go ahead. They are a very few, and far between.
Like I said 97 % of the time.
160 wrs play weekly in the NFL. So give me all these Wrs that look good no matter who the Qb is. Just because you don't like the idea of something doesn't make it wrong. You could help yourself, and learn from that.
I got Mike Evans, Diggs, as the only Wrs I know for a fact look great no matter who is throwing the ball. That's 2 out of 160 Wrs a week, and that's not counting all the Wrs in the NFL, but I'm trying to help you a bit.

 

Former Bears and Seahawks RB Travis Homer signed today with the Pittsburgh Steelers, per source.

 

Josh Dobbs just became available let's run this back to 2022.

 

darnell savage.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...S&cvid=69c27ae9187d4d9e8475decbc93d2c54&ei=20

waiting................

 

Touchdowns can be fluky for receivers, so I didn't bother.

You keep making this outrageous claim without backing it up. I have showed evidence to counter it before, but you haven't backed up your end. It is about time you did or just admit you are talking out of the wrong end of your anatomy on this one.

Also, are we also including tight ends? It would stand to reason that receiving tight ends would also be included.

Take a quick look at last year's receiving leaders.

• Trey McBride, a tight end, put together an elite season as a receiver despite the Cardinals' not having a good quarterback.
• Chase and Higgins have produced even when Burrow has missed time.
• Olave put up numbers despite a quarterback situation that was, at best, fluid in New Orleans.
• The Giants had inconsistent quarterback play, but Wan/Dale Robinson put up big numbers.
• Justin Jefferson is an elite receiver no matter who plays quarterback in Minnesota.
• Michael Pittman has been a solid receiver for years despite the mess the Colts have had at quarterback.
• Is Jalen Hurts so great a passer that he makes A.J. Brown and DeVonta Smith productive?

Is Sam Darnold a great quarterback? Did he make Jaxon Smith-Njigba?

Sure, there are guys who put up big numbers catching passes from top quarterbacks. Puka Nacua had Matt Stafford. Diggs had Josh Allen. Zay Flowers had Lamar Jackson. George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb had Dak Prescott. Then again, Pickens has has big games with the likes of Mason Rudolph or the remains of Russell Wilson throwing to him, too.

The backups who play a little are very rarely going to look great no matter who is at quarterback, but of the starters, it seems like a hell of a lot more than three percent look good without having a top quarterback throwing them the ball.

 

I often joke as I got older my parents seemed to get smarter

I think they were content with him.

 

I thought he was fine as a backup. The line played well as a unit with him in there.

 

LoL. You are talking games, I'm talking seasons. Stop trying to move the goal post.
You bring up half truths, and down right lies.
Here let's take Your own example. Did Justin Jefferson have his worst year last year with the Qbs he played with or not???
I already know the answer.
Did Yoir darling Pickens have a better year last year with a better Qb , or not?
I will give You AJ Brown, and yet he has been complaining about His Qb for the last two years.
I already said Diggs, and Mike Evans so that's 4 legitimate WRs if we take Justin Jefferson, who just had his worst season with not good Qbs. Wow 4 Wrs out of 150- 200 Wrs in the NFL every year. Yeah I'm wrong when I say most are made by the Qb. NOT. LoL You just proved my point.
You get hung up on a few. No where did I say all, I said most, and if all You can give me is 5, hell even if You could give me 10, that's not very many out of 150- 200 wrs a year. I know you hate it, but it's true.
Tell me even the great AB. He played with 5 different Qbs, tell me when he was better than when he was with Ben, or another HOF Qb.
I gave You Claypool, and DJ who both looked great with Ben, and both couldn't keep a job after Ben.

 

When did Diggs produce with a bad QB?

The last time he had a bad QB was in 2017, but Keenun was having a career year with the Vikings, and Diggs wasn't even the best receiver on his team. As for Evans, Fitzpatrick and Winston, they were capable of getting a lot of yards and touchdowns, so they were able to get the receivers to produce. Their problem was the interceptions, which were out of control.

Many receivers have been able to produce with a bad QB if this QB is not the bottom of the barrel..Of course, they all perform better when you have a really good QB in a good offense, but it's not the only position where that's the case... Most of the time, players are better with a good supporting cast.

AB's production with Landry Jones was very good too, with two 100 receiving yards in 2 games with him as QB and no I don't count the game when Roethlisberger come in as backup in 2015 vs Browns... I don't take the games with Vick seriously since he was washed out like crazy, Todd Haley's system was completely new to him, and the timing was just awful.

 

Don't give me what You think. Give me what happened. Tell Me when AB played as well as He did with Ben, or Brady? Don't give me excuses why. I can give excuses for anything if I want to. How about when Diggs played with Shawn Hill, Sam Bradford, and C. Keenum.

 

I mentionned in my previous post that you are better when you have better QB...My point,a very good WR can still be very productive when you have bad QB and it happen very often even if this is not as good when you are with a top QB in a top offense

For Diggs in 2016, Adam Thielen had more yards that him with the vikings on 20 less targets....For Evans in 2014,he had over 1000 yards with Glennon and Josh McCown but a washed Vincent Jackson had also 1000 yards too on the same team

 

To start with, there are no lies in what I posted. None. So stop that nonsense right there. Don't accuse me of lying just because you cannot back up your argument.

Now you are the one moving the goalposts. The statement you made was about being good regardless of the quarterback. Jefferson still caught 84 passes for 1,084 yards. Does that not qualify as good?

Your argument was that quarterbacks make receivers 97 percent of the time, not that quarterback play affects receiver production. Those are not the same thing. The former is something you have been claiming for years without ever backing it up. The latter is something no one is or would dispute.

Pickens was still good in Pittsburgh. Of course his numbers improved with a better quarterback and better overall talent around him, but he was always good even with a scrub like Rudolph throwing him the ball.

I didn't just give you a few receivers. I gave you nine, with a question about Smith-Njigba because I'm not sure you want to argue that Darnold "made" him good.

There aren't 150 to 200 receivers in the NFL who even have the opportunity to be good. There aren't enough snaps and targets to go around for that to happen, so using those numbers is misleading.

You are also taking advantage of "good'" being vague.

So let's try this again. Show us real data. Define what is a good receiver. Define what counts as a good quarterback. Show us more than one example (Claypool) to support your theory because Johnson doesn't work. He showed great promise the year Roethlisberger was out and he was good for one year when it was primarily Pickett and Trubisky throwing him the ball.

 

Why is this so hard for many people to understand. Not ALL Wrs, but MOST wrs look good by what Qbs they have.
Yes any Qb can force feed a Wrs without care of winning, or losing just to put up numbers. You can give me 10 Wrs that look good with any Qb , and still that isn't much out of 150, and Wrs that are in the NFL every year.

 

DJ doesn't work because You don't want it to be. You showed numbers that aren't even close to what He had with Ben, and He never reached those numbers again after Ben.

 

Was this supposed to be in Green?