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Discussion in 'The Bill Nunn Draft Room' started by mac daddyo, Dec 26, 2025.

  1. Steeldude

    Steeldude Well-Known Member

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    We will see. It's possible. I just hope they can keep Proctor's weight down. The last I heard he is 376lbs. He needs to drop to 330lbs, IMO. He is quite the specimen at that 376lbs though; very strong. 17 games in the NFL. How will he hold up in the 4th quarter and/or 2nd half of the season.

    The need to choose the BPA at 21 between WR, DT, OT. I don't want them grabbing Simpson. I don't like any QB being taken above the 5th round. It's a poor QB class.
     
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  2. blackandgoldpatrol

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    I separated the draft rd for a reason...... if you read the rest, I specifically said in the 5th rd on down, I would look at Xavier Nwankpa
     
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  3. Born2Steel

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    I think that is what most are saying about Proctor and his weight. I don't know how these things get measured exactly, but I read that Proctor has 275lbs of lean muscle and also 26% body fat. I'm guessing they will want him to literally trim the fat quite a bit. But his power and footwork quickness are reportedly already at an elite level. Comes down to how hard does the big man want to work at being his best at the next level.
     
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  4. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    he or bud clark would be pretty decent safeties to have. i saw miami is ready to get rid of minkah already. i'm hoping they go get kameron curl and wait to draft one of these two later. :cool:
     
  5. freakfontana

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    Vega the guard is a sure things
     
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  6. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    I would be okay with the Steelers taking him at #21.
     
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  7. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    his only downfall is run blocking. his slowness is the problem in reaching the second level. if it was a problem in college it will be intensified in the pros. are they willing to forego that for his pass protection skills? caleb tiernan kind of falls under that same problem as a LT. pass protect is great, run blocking not as much. can campon help this? in vega's situation, you can't coach speed or lack there of. not saying i wouldn't like either but they have some limitations as well. :cool:
     
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  8. forgotten1

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    going defense RD1 this year got to get younger
     
  9. AskQuestionsLater

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    Xavier in the 5th is pseudo highway robbery imo. The skillset, tools and traits are all there. He just needs to get more consistent.
     
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  10. steelersrule6

    steelersrule6 Well-Known Member

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    WR
     
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  11. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    WR
     
  12. Steelpens65

    Steelpens65 Well-Known Member

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    Minkah faded the last 2 yrs he was a Steeler
    No surprise Miami about done with him
     
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  13. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    replace ramsey and queen with kam curl and quay walker and don't look back. sabastion castro and deshaun elliott can man the strong safety spot and we draft another free safety to keep in the pipeline. :cool:
     
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  14. mac daddyo

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    all the top receivers drafted last year and i believe only JS-N was the only one to really move the needle much for their team. mcmillon was probably second and then the others had more of a support role. that's fine but in the first round it seems you want more for your money. that is about what i see with this years group. they may be the best this year has to offer but how do they stack up to other years? i think pretty low. i also think this is how we should approach this as well.

    i know we need receivers but i'm not sure we should be all in on one of these guys to come in and take over as an immediate legit #2 in the NFL. i see this draft full of good WR's but maybe not great WR's. i'm not sure i touch any of them in the first round and get better value later in the first 3 rounds with all our picks and probably get the same type of production. i also want to see what MM can do with wilson. can he do more than MT and smith did? if i was a bettin man. :cool:
     
  15. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    kenyon sadiq.

    The Combine did not just confirm what we already knew about Sadiq. It elevated him. Running a 4.39 at 241 pounds does not just make him the fastest tight end ever tested at Indianapolis. It puts him in a conversation with some of the most explosive athletes to ever work out at the Combine regardless of position. Only DK Metcalf and Nick Emmanwori have matched the combination of sub-4.4 speed, a 40-plus-inch vertical, and an 11-plus-foot broad jump at 220 pounds or heavier. Sadiq is the heaviest of the three. Those are not tight end comparisons anymore. That is freak-of-nature territory, and it changes the calculus for every team picking in the first round.

    The receiving ability was never in question. Sadiq wins at all three levels of the field with legitimate speed, clean route breaks, and the hands to make contested catches in traffic. What the Combine did was remove any lingering doubt about whether the athleticism would translate to Sundays. It will. The blocking is still a limitation, and at 241 pounds he is not going to hold up against NFL edge rushers in a phone booth. But that is not really the point with a player like this. You do not draft Sadiq to leave him on the line and ask him to seal C-gap. You draft him because he creates matchup problems that defensive coordinators cannot solve with conventional personnel.

    The right offense will move him around constantly, split him out, use him as a big slot, and let him terrorize linebackers and safeties who simply cannot stay with him vertically. He needs a system that treats the tight end position as a weapon in the passing game rather than an extension of the offensive line. In that kind of role, the ceiling is a Pro Bowl caliber receiving tight end who forces defenses to adjust their entire game plan. The blocking will come as he matures physically and learns NFL technique. The speed, the ball skills, the big-game mentality? Those are already there, and after what he did in Indianapolis, the only debate left is how early his name gets called on draft night.

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  16. freakfontana

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    or cj allen ilb
     
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  17. Joel Buchsbaum

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  18. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    they have met with cj allen and hill. ILB? i still could see a double dip at safety. thienenan and clark possibly? they have met with clark twice. our current safeties are only signed for this year. we do have castro also. :cool:
     
  19. steelersrule6

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  20. Brice

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    I am hoping for O-Line in the 1st round. I really don't want to see Spencer Anderson starting on the O-Line for us this year.
     
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  21. forgotten1

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    yes but imo Ioane is the only one worth a 1st rd and that we need
    if he is gone DL please or Cooper wr
    OL later is worth it 2nd 3rd yes
     
  22. Brice

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    I watched the Big Ragu play LG for the Steelers for 11 years and he too, couldn't run to save his life. They Measured his 40 time with a Calendar. :)

    So, I think Vega can play LG for the Steelers just fine.
     
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  23. SGSteeler

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    I think we can find a good guard to compete with Anderson for the starting role in round 2 or 3. Deep position and quite rich to spend a first on (especially given our other needs). Someone like Dunker, Pregnon, Lew, Bisontis.... Most, if not all, could be available at our 2nd pick. Ioane is a good player, but he'd have to turn into a Pouncey or DeCastro to really make it worth it. If we take OL in the first, it better be a tackle.
     
  24. SGSteeler

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    I'm starting to think its going to be ILB, WR, or DB if we stay put. If we trade up its for either Downs, a WR, a DB, or a T. Second and third rounds are looking like G, WR, DB, QB, ILB etc.
     
  25. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    they didn't run much zone blocking in those days. Different skill set needed. :cool:
     

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