Joey Porter Jr Contract

I don't think the Steelers will pay him an APY of 32 million, for that kind of money you better be an All-Pro with 5-6 interceptions a season.

 

Not sure, but whatever they do , they need to keep him.

 

UGH not worth it

 

Something from another team. After all I keep hearing how the team’s hands are tied by the Watt contract. The sky is falling. Porter will be a Raven.

 

My dudes, don't be jinxing us.

 

They can't even afford their center.

 

That's a lot of cheddar for a guy with only 1 INT last season. Heck, he only has 3 career INTs in 47 career games. That's an INT per game rate of 0.06 which is 4-5 times worse than elite CBs. If he wants to be the highest paid CB in the league, let him do it elsewhere. I'd give him an extension but $32M a year? That's nuts.

 

This is a "make an offer and let him test the market" situation IMO. A reasonable offer, not crazy low or high.

We are not contending for a Super Bowl until we get a franchise QB anyway.

Spend on the O-line, capable receiver, and keep some powder dry. Not spend a bunch on one guy.

One shut-down corner does not make you a contender.

 

I'll see how the new defensive scheme is. Because if it's what the new coach did with his old team, I dont see porter working out to getting a new contract.

 

OK, I will bite. Where are they getting the $32 million number from?

Right now not a single CB in the league is averaging over $30 million. Only 8 CBs are being paid over $20 million.

 

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Three years ago....reddit got the twitter account to post a made up story:

OTC has Port at $20 million annually. https://overthecap.com/player/joey-porter-jr/10856

 

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Right!!
I mean interceptions in the end are basically the other team just handing it over to the defense.
The defense in no way put effort into acquiring the ball.
15 interceptions last season total and our LBs were among the top with 2 a piece.

My thing isn't the ints, dfp, pbu, or sacks

he has improved yet nowhere near the 15 int/yr I predicted when we drafted him

but

32 million ??? LOL PUHLEASE not worth it.

Hope his dad stays out of it. Dog knows, they don't need him beating anyone up at the table.

 

I would give him 20 x year

 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/_/year/2025/position/cb

That is all the CB contracts signed last year. With a rising cap, anything signed moving forward will be MORE than those numbers.

I feel like slotting Porter above Jaycee Horn and below Stingley feels accurate for his play. So....best case the Steelers talk everyone into $28 million. Worst case, they pay an upcharge for the higher cap and get it done at $30.

Honestly, the more you look into it....the less ridiculous that $32 million number seems -- despite the source!

 

Current highest AAV for CBs appears to be ~ $30MM / year.

I do think Porter has been very good. But I don't know that he would become the highest paid CB in the league without ever having made a probowl.

But cap inflation is both powerful and real. So he'll get paid a lot of money.

I'd hope to keep it under $30MM / year though.

If it's > $30MM, I hope that we win on other aspects of the deal (e.g., structure, length, guarantees). And that it's not like Watt's deal where we lost basically every facet.

Some numbers to think about how we might get to some kind of estimate (numbers after year 2 could be totally off).

Current franchise value for CBs appears to be something like $21.5MM.

We could say that we can say that we'd tag him at $21.5MM and then again with a 20% raise ($25.8MM). Then he'd get something that looks like the cap inflated market rate after that.

So the first two years of the deal should cost the team something under that $47.5MM.

I'd prefer to get a 5 year deal here but let's say they would rather do a 4 year.

Then maybe we say something like we'd give him $32MM then $35MM for those two years (these numbers might be too low because cap inflation has been really high recently).

Then total would be 21.5 + 25.8 + 32 + 35 ~ $114.3. To do the 4 years 128MM in the OP, you'd be giving another $5MM in each of years 3 and 4...since the first two years are fixed from the tag rules.

Over 4 years with my (made up) numbers, that's $28.5MM / year.

If it's 5 years (with the last year maybe at something like $38MM), then it becomes $152.3MM, or $30.5MM / year.

So I could see giving him something over $30MM if the contract if 5 years.

Contracts are basically never longer than 5 years because you can only amortize the cap hit over 5 years.

 

I don't see a world where he's worth less than $25 million a year. That's the going rate for a high end CB. We don't get the luxury to just not pay because we don't like the price. We might be able to get by paying him less than Sauce or Stingley because he isn't a multi year All Pro like those two are... But I would imagine he would want to be paid between those two guys and the next grouping of players. Its hard to argue that he isn't worth that money.

4 years and $108mil+ is probably reasonable. If we can get him for $27-28 million a year, then you do it. We finally have a really good #1 corner. Sign the guy. Don't be cheap/stupid.

 

Its always going to be something. If he had the interceptions and not the coverage, then the coverage ability would be the reason why he isn't worth the money. He plays like a top 5 player in the league at the position. There is absolutely no reason to let him walk over a couple million. Having a shut down corner is so important in this league and we actually drafted and developed one... we gotta pay him. The team can't be so shortsighted over a couple million dollars. QB, WR, CB, LT, EDGE. Those are the premium positions. You get a stud that plays any of those positions you pretty much pay them. Simple as that.

 

They don't have to pay him this season. They will try to extend him before he hits FA in 2027.

Porter Jr, is really the only top notch corner on the roster at this time. So he has leverage. And is homegrown.

But 32 mill per? No. 25 mill I could see. These players want the coin up front with a bulk guaranteed.

Its paramount that they hit on a corner possibly in the 2nd or early 3rd.

 

I don't understand people. All we hear about is that the defense lives and dies with or without the turnovers they create. Turnovers are great, but better defense is about being better on every play, not just relying on turnovers to stop offenses. Great cornerback play gives the defense the best chance of getting off the field on third downs. Getting off the field means less time of possession for opposing offenses, more rest for your defense, more possessions for your offense, better field possession for your team, and more opportunities to score points.

It is always better to have a shutdown corner. Particularly if your defense plays a lot of man coverage. If the secondary still sucks, it isn't because the shutdown corner isn't any good or doesn't make interceptions. It either means there isn't enough of a pass rush, the other secondary players aren't playing well, the DC isn't putting them in good positions with scheme in down-and-distance situations, or there are communication issues and coverage breakdowns.

A shutdown corner, particularly a corner that can follow the opposing teams best WR anywhere they line up means that they don't have to double team a player that dominates games. That means because that cornerback can take away that player by himself, it leaves the rest of the defense with superior numbers in coverage. It is up to the defensive coordinator to scheme the defense to get the most out of that elite player. Even if it means having that corner playing man while the rest of the defense plays a different coverage. That's what they get paid to do.

Even if that cornerback isn't assigned to the best receiver, the defense can then double or use bracket coverage on the #1 wide receiver and the shutdown corner takes away the #2 option by himself so it is possible to limit both receivers. Either way, the defense is better as a whole because that one player makes everyone better. Just as TJ Watt has made everyone better over his entire career by having offenses dedicating multiple players to try to stop him while everyone else gets single blocked to make their jobs easier....A shutdown corner makes everyone in coverage better because he does so much by himself and the other players have superior numbers.

I swear, sometimes I think people want to be able to ***** that the defense is too reliant on turnovers. Allowing a shutdown cornerback to leave because you don't want to pay him is counterproductive because it took them a decade to find just one. The key is to find a quality second cornerback and a solid nickel corner that allows all kinds of freedom to aggressively attack offenses and dominate. If the back end can hold up in single coverage, it allows the DC to get creative with disguise and blitzing to make up for deficiencies in individual pass rushers dominating.

The bottom line is that getting rid of an elite cover corner doesn't make your defense better.

 

Doesn’t get a lot of INT’s because he doesn’t get targeted at a high rate.