Steelers and Sam Darnold

And most of your posts are you whining about Tomlin leaving without doing a press conference . Don't post crap and think people aren't going to call you out on it .

 

According to the data, I have made 702 posts. You think the majority of them are about Tomlin?! Insert your own icon. I have no such need.

If you're triggered by such talk, go ahead and give me another " X ".

Like I said, have a nice day.

 

It wasn't just the teams at the time. It was his development. Darnold is a much different quarterback now than what he was with the Jets.

No, the argument isn't that he would have gotten the Steelers to the Super Bowl. The argument is he would have made them a much better team in 2025 and going forward.

 

The Steelers had the cap room to sign Darnold at the time. They could have kept Pickens, too, and given him the weapons to take advantage of his talent.

Maybe it would have meant trading Watt instead of overpaying him, but that would have been a good thing.

 

Wonder what kind of raise Sam Darnold gets now?

 

Anyone who thinks we would have been SB contenders with Darnold is just being silly. Not much would have changed under our old coaching staff. Where I think things could look promising is having Darnold under McCarthy. Darnold is far better than Rodgers. ARod was great, but he's done. The guy has no mobility, so any pass rush will be the death of him.

Seattle dumped their coaching staff and their starting QB and went a different direction. It resulted in a SB. We stuck with the status quo and look where we are. The point is teams have to be wiling to make adjustments, sometimes big adjustments. Our awful ownership wasn't willing.

 

What part of it was Darnold's choice to go to Seattle don't you guys get .

 

I think it's mostly the last part.

Just like he really avoiding saying that we benched Pickett when he was sitting on the bench because Rudolph was playing better than he was.

For most coaches, I think PCs are about sending messages to players. And I think most guys aren't going to throw their players under the bus. Especially when there's a possibility they'll need those same players on the field later that season (or in the future).

The only player (our team or other team) I ever remember Tomlin **** talking was DJ when he was on the Rats(?). Instead of the boilerplate "He was a good player for us and we're aware of what he can do in a game" or something, he pretty much just said "I don't think he's going to see the field for them" or something. Every other time he talks about an opposing player, it's about how they're a HoF player in waiting.

 

You do whine a lot

If you want respect you need to earn it

 

What part of the Steelers could have made a legitimate offer and he might have chosen them do you not understand?

 

The difference there being Pickett had been sitting for over a month, so there was a legitimate reason to play Rudolph other than who was the better quarterback. I'm certain that Tomlin realized Rudolph's numbers were inflated by facing a horrible Bengals defense that had gotten even worse since the first time the teams played due to injury and a Seahawks defense that couldn't stop the run.

 

I agree that benching Pickett for Mason wasn't about Mason being good.

It was about Kenny being bad.

Which is something that several teams seem to have concluding independently now.

Mason was the first time he got outplayed by a QB3. But it's pretty much happened on all the other teams he's been on since then.

 

I think it as about Pickett being rusty after sitting for a month. It was also about the team getting behind the quarterback who had a couple of good games. I am sure Tomlin realized that Rudolph was no better, that those numbers were simply the benefit of getting rid of Canada and facing two terrible defenses. I do think Tomlin had already decided Pickett wasn't their guy due to a combination of limited production and his inability to stay healthy, so any damage he did by sitting the guy wasn't a big deal in the coach's mind.

I do wonder if Tomlin realized the role he played in Pickett's troubles. You can't develop a quarterback by telling him he has to avoid turnovers at all costs. It takes away their aggressiveness. You can't play football that way.

 

I agree with Tomlin in this instance, dont want to put too much pressure on the young Qb by labeling him the franchise Qb. I think thats what he was intending anyway.

 

Mason was playing well (outside of the game in the monsoon). It was nice for him to hit a hot streak right before he had a contract to sign.

The fact that Tomlin went with Mason speaks volumes. Because Tomlin clearly doesn't think Mason is a starter (and I agree with him).

I agree with you that Tomlin had (rightly) determined that Kenny wasn't a starting QB. Many other teams have also determined that he isn't a starter. Or even a QB2. I had thought he'd end up being a decent backup (kind of somewhere between a Mason and a Fitzmagic type guy).

Maybe he bounces back in his career. But I think he's close to the end of his NFL career.

 

This quote says it all about how bad our coaching staff was under Tomlin. Read the quote and ask yourself if anyone ever would say these words about Tomlin.

"Macdonald is truly the McVay of the defensive side, concocting complex looks that stifle opponents and shutting down run games while keeping his resources tilted toward the pass. Sunday was his masterpiece, as the Patriots couldn't conjure answers for his dime looks and unrelenting pressure packages"

Here is the quote for last two years if a writer describe our defense against anyone with a pulse.
" Tomlins or Austin is truly the Barney Fife of the Defensive side, concocting simple looks that make average quarterbacks look awesome especially if they throw in any zone a linebacker is supposed to cover, The overpriced defense does not stop the run ever and gets zero pressure by it multi million dollar edge rusher. "

 

No . I just looked it up again, and He had fumbled 11 times this year. If your team jumps on the ball, it doesn't mean you didn't fumble.

 

LoL. Funny all those same fumbles disappeared when we changed Qb, and low, and behold that same Qb had 4 fumbles for the Jets this year in 9 games. LoL
Funny know matter where Justin Fields goes, no matter who is his HC, OC, and his center/OL, he seems to fumble, and people still make excuses.

 

And not a historic dominant defense that Seattle showed in the playoff run. They kicked 5 field goals, its not like he was throwing darts all over the field. He's a good QB but I'm not sure he's great. We shall see. He even said right after the game I wish the offense played better. He knows, he just didn't screw up which is what Trent Dilfer did as well.

 

I will bet at least 70% of the "it was Tomlins fault " will turn into, I never said that.
Just like all the people that bit<hed, and complained about Cowher, and Noll all these years later act like they were God's of football.
They will just shift the blame elsewhere.

 

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