Brian Angelichio new OC

Last time anyone ran the numbers....larger staffs had a lower regular season winning percentage and less playoff wins.

The strongest correlation with large staffs is they tend to be on bad teams with "new" coaching staffs. So it might not be the size of the staff that is causing the losing but it remains that there is no evidence that more is the merrier on NFL coaching staffs.

 

I'm very big on requiring evidence when making claims, and I have absolutely no evidence that would support a larger staff equaling more wins, so you won't see any such claim from me.
I have absolutely no idea if a larger staff equals more wins, and I don't think anyone else does either. A bigger staff and more wins doesn't automatically prove such a claim.

With that said, I don't think it's a stretch to say that teams with good health/exercise/rehab facilities and enough staff to support the players will have better results than teams without those things.
But I also have no idea at what point good facilities just become excessive with no extra benefits to the players.

 

I strongly suspect this is the actual place that NFL teams should be dumping money.

Make it so all those nutrionists, physical therapists, and other support staff that we read so many of the game's best players hire on their own just come organically with being a member of the team.

Make the training facilities a palace. Provide on sight daycare, family stuff, heck a basic medical clinic...a barber....convenience store....etc. Make it so these guys and their families never have to consider anything but ball.

 

There will literally be no hire, and I mean not one single hire that you would be satisfied with. Your dream was for Tomlin to leave but I'm betting you're gonna be the squeaky wheel until ownership changes happen. That's not happening anytime soon. Buckle up buttercup, with your sky high expectations, you can expect to be disappointed in Steelers football for a long time to come.

 

therapist


NOT AGAIN!!!!!

 

What does this have to do with the post I made to what was written???
It was shown the drop off, and I showed the decline as Ben got older, and then the retirement of Ben in equal with each year of the drop off.
I will ask , how many teams will make the playoffs with Pickett, Trubisky, Rudolph, Wilson, or Fields, let alone win a playoff game??
We seen Rudolph in Tennessee fail miserably.
Trubisky became a full time backup.
Pickett became a full time backup.
Wilson benched with a bad losing season, and.....
Fields benched with a bad losing season.
Yet we made the playoffs with everyone of them.

 

And yet Cowher also had one of the smallest coaching staffs. When it happens with one HC you say it's the HC, but when it happens with the last two HCs, you gotta look deeper IMO

 

I dont mean to dispute your looking deeper theory but they have only had two HC's during that time and while one the surface it looks compelling to say it looks more like Rooney than Cowher/Tomlin I just dont see him telling either that they need more or less coaches on staff as the key component to winning games. Cowher was a bridge between old school and new school so I can see him sticking with what is traditional. Tomlin I can see as having more if he had a coaching philosophy that he was really trying to hammer into guys but that wasn't his style he was too much blind master to his player's grasshopper.

 

Well since I can't read minds, I try reading the tea leaves.
On one hand we have a family that owns the team.
On the other we have the last two HCs, both of which had some of the smallest coaching staffs in the league. Now since I don't have any ESP talents, I have to look at what the evidence shows.
Same family running the show, two different HCs having one of the smallest coaching staffs. Could it be coincidence??? Sure. It could be.
Edit: we are also talking about the same owners that are just now changing the HC office furniture for the 1st time since Cowher was the HC

 

Lol this would be the point where we could easily say one way or the other if they had just one more head coach during this time frame. If we used the Browns as an example we can definitively say they were all bad choices made by everyone.

Now dont quote me on this because I'm not in any way an authority on football coaching but isn't expanded staff and quality control coaches a relatively new trend? I would think having more would help especially at the position coaches level if they also had additional responsibilities beyond just the position. Let's take Munch as an example. He was OL coach but also the run game coordinator. That is a tall task to manage where you are coaching up your players but you need to also get the TE's,backs, and sometimes receivers blocking the right way. Have two more sets of eyes out there and guys you can lean on would be very helpful but again we come back to who is making the call to add staff or roll with what you got.

 

Again. No matter if it's a new thing, or not. Cowher had one of the Smallest coaching staffs also. So no matter what was going on at the time, he still had one of the smallest coaching staffs for that time, and then low, and behold so did the next HC. Again , you are asking me to guess, and I'm just saying what was.
If we had 50 HCs in between then , and now, I don't know what would have been, I only know what has been.
In Cowhers time he had one of the smallest coaching staffs compared to the rest of the NFL, and in Tomlin's time it was the same. I can only go by what has been. Could it be coincidence, again, yes.

 

My point is that our production on offense fell off far too sharp after losing Ben. We intentionally went into turtle ball mode, playing safe, not-to-lose football on offense to win some regular season games, only to be humiliated in 6 consecutive playoffs. I'd expect a few down years in a QB switch but the Steelers were too content with the Tomlin way.

Just making the playoffs shouldn't be the goal. Finding the next franchise QB and winning in the playoffs should be the goal. We've been wasting time ever since Ben hurt himself and started talking about retirement. We should have been more like the Packers, putting more effort into drafting his replacement while we had him, than what we've done. Or Go after a guy like Darnold rather than fumbling around with cheap interim solutions like Fields and Wilson.

 

We will probably ever know.......I just find it hard to believe that any NFL team owner is going to quibble over several hundred thousand dollars in coaching salaries if it is going to help the team out. Not impossible, but it seems like it would be arguing with a firefighter about what type of firetruck they have rather than just letting them put out the fire.

 

our offense needs to control the clock, and score points no 3 and outs-- no dumb play calls like 3rd and 1 ------throwing deep this nonsense must stop. Our defense needs a breather--- not on the field the whole game

 

That isn't true.

 

Again with the Packers.
LoL
Tell me again with the way the Packers did it. How many more SBs do they have than us???
We went to 3 , and won 2 the way we did it, and the Packers went to 3 , and won 2 the way they did it. So explain how that was better. LoL
You guys , and Your Packers.

 

No it's not. Do some research. Also we are not talking about just coaching staff, which I failed to mention, we are talking the whole football acumen from trainers to nutritionists. After You have actually done the research, then You can tell me.

 

Yeah I did, and His was smaller than most, again this isn't just coaching.
Also, only 3 years was Cowhers staff in the top amount. I don't consider 3 years out of 15 as what was really happening.