Sean McDermott - Bills

Exceptional post.

 

I was thinking about the Brady Patriots team during that controversial interception call that ended the Bills season on Saturday. You can bet your last dollar that if the WR on that play was Julian Edleman or Wes Welker it would have been ruled a catch and down by contact.

 

Sounds so familiar.

 

They definitely got the calls during the Brady years.

 

wouldn’t have even went to replay.

 

Classless

 

Classless?!


Try Thermonuclear PR Nightmare. Then again, Bills fans were already not too happy about the Pegula's as a whole; more so Terry than Kim. This all but confirms it; Terry Pegula is just as reactionary as other Owners are in the NFL.


There is only one Owner that has paitence infinititum; the Rooney Family. Which ever Ownership Group, Owner or Family Based Owners is a close second?!..... is not a comical close second.

 

Josh Allen isn't blameless in this at all himself. Since 2020, no QB has turned the ball over more than Josh Allen (per statmuse). Dude is an absolute turnover machine. That said, with a talent like his?! That may be too tempting to pass up; Terry Pegula's dumbass ways included.


Why include Josh Allen in all of this?! Should the Bills not be able to make the Playoffs again next season and/or Josh Allen being out for an extended period of time?! Whomever that new Head Coach is will be dragged across Buffalo.

 

Before the game vs Denver,Allen had 0 turnover in the previous 6 playoffs game

 

The issue isn't the regular season, the issue is the playoffs.
Look at Allens play in the playoffs. Until this year, he's been absolutely lights out. When your QB gives you a lead with 14 seconds to go in the game, you can't blame him for losing that game.
Against Jacksonville he had to overcome 2 4th quarter deficits.
Again Denver he had to overcome a 4th quarter deficit.
He typically puts up 30+ points per game in the playoffs. If that's not enough, you can't really blame your QB.

Even against Denver. He had his moments, but why is the coach calling a play with seconds to go in the first half? That's just not smart.
And if Hardman holds onto the ball or if Cooks holds on to the ball, the Bills win.
Despite the turnovers, against one of the best defences in the league, he still did enough to win if his WR's just helped him out a little bit, or if his defence didn't get burned badly in OT.

 

Specifically speaking, it was reference to the Regular Season. Statmuse didn't account for Post Season.

 

I do think you're cherry picking re: those 6 games. Particularly since you seem to be using those 6 games to make points about Ben. Even though he wasn't on the team for half of them.

I wonder how Ben was when these games were close (maybe within 10 - 14 points)?

I think toward the end of his career, he was still very good against loose coverage because he was good at pre-reads (and shorter passes).

But, I think he really lost accuracy (particularly in medium to long throws). This started with the AB "bad-WIWI" comments I think. And got worse (much worse?) after the injury.

I think a lot of these last 6 games were like the JAX and CLE games. Sadly, I think Ben's comments about "just having fun" in the KC game look really bad after how poorly we played.

Where we were awful on offense early and any time the games were close. But we rang up a bunch of stats when we were down a lot because the other team was really just trying to prevent huge plays and make us consume clock.

Re: money on O/D

This is just a reflection of not having any older players at big money positions. We aren't paying a QB (the main reason O is almost always higher than D spending). We didn't have a vet tackle because we drafted two guys. They were still on rookie contracts and by CBA we can't extend Jones until this offseason. And we can't extend TF until next season. We tried to draft WRs, but have missed a lot here (because we don't have a QB like Ben to make them look better than they are IMO).

And the DK contract is a great example of why spending more isn't the same as getting better. Pickens (cheap on a rookie deal) was better this year than DK. My preference would have been to keep both. But the switch of DK for Pickens was probably a minus on the field. And we still got the attitude issues with the 2 game suspension.

We also could have spent more on offense if we extended Dan Moore Jr. Maybe even pay him more than the 4 year $82MM contract that he got. Would that have made the team better? Or was it a better decision to let him leave and go with the cheaper rookies. Who are likely at least as good as he is (personally not yet sold on Jones).

The offense is paid less because we are rebuilding on offense. I agree that it really, really sucked that the first effort at a rebuild here was mostly a failure (Najee left without a 2nd contract, KP sucked, Pickens traded because attitude sucked, Moore...maybe gets and extension, but not worth the 5th year option, Austin a decent WR3 probably, R Wison can't get a helmet on a team with only one WR...even when that WR is suspended, PF is the best offensive pick in this group...and he's probably somewhere around an average TE). Our problem isn't that we aren't spending money on offense. Our problem is that we drafted poorly for a good stretch of time. And we used a lot of premium picks on offense in this time span.

This is obviously also on Tomlin. But it's not the spending. We were correct to pay someone like Highsmith and let someone like Moore go. Making the opposite of those two decisions would have made the spending O/D more even. But it would have made the team worse.

 

Josh Allen should have no input

But the Buffalo owner seems to be an idiot so anything is possible

 

Fine but the turnovers in the regular season has nothing to do with the failure of the bills come playoffs time...And Allen cut down from the turnovers since he had Joe Brady as OC

 

I already addressed why I picked those 6 games. Someone made a point that one of the games in that stretch and Ben throwing 4 INTs in that game are one of the games Tomlin gets blamed for that he shouldn't be. I told him that it has been about Tomlin's defense over the last 6 games of his career that have been the biggest problem. It's pretty hard to miss that point because those are the games everyone has been pointing to when they say Tomlin didn't have it anymore.

If you are worried about Ben talking about "just having fun", It's a common theme that people within teams say to try to take pressure off of people. I have been on many, many teams and in many situations where coaches or myself would say that to loosen everyone up going into a big game when you felt people might be tight. This is a non-issue to me. It is something that is said all the time around the game of football.

Again, when a football team consistently gets their doors blown off at the start of every game on both sides of the ball.....it's game planning and coaching.

We know that Colbert's drafts weren't very good the last few years of his career. But they have been drafting defensive players too. You are acting like they have only been drafting offensive players. Go back and look at all the recent drafts. They are loaded with defensive draft picks. Come on man. Just this last draft had Harmon, Black, Sawyer, Bruener, and Kent.

The other thing is that Tomlin had players that turned into great players where they traded them to. Pickens, Dotson, and Spillane off the top of my head. When Tomlin got rid of players because he couldn't deal with them or couldn't see how good they were, that's on him. Two of these guys are still playing football and are integral pieces of their teams. Dotson was an All-Pro last season. Pickens lit the league on fire this season on another team and is a Pro Bowl WR. Spillane is the leader of the Patriots defense, when the Steelers can't find a LB that can get the job done. Who's fault is that?

The money thing is about the team signing veterans that cost way more than drafted players and younger, more undeveloped players to fill holes in the roster. Going out and signing a bunch of 10-year veterans costs tens of millions of dollars every season. After they sign all these vets and spend that money, they get injured and pay them for nothing, or they have to release 1 or 2 of them because they suck so they then have to sign other players to replace them.

Everyone knows that Mike Tomlin is who wants the veteran players. This is well known.

 

All the top QB's are going to get input. They may not get what they want, but they'll get input.

 

You can do that crap for every team I bet a player leaves a team and goes and plays better on their new team, now list the players who played pretty good with the Steelers but now suck on their new team.

 

Very interesting. This could actually work out for the Bills.

 

The point about no extension worthy players on offense is the key point. They paid big money to ONE guy after his rookie deal. ONE - Freirmuth. I think PF is a joke as a highly paid TE...but I am willing to concede that and cast my lot with the many fans who argue he just isn't used properly.

The rest of the late stage Colbert guys (those that would be extension eligible) were awful picks that were forced to try and get one last ride out of the aging HOF gunslinger at QB. And the Pickett pick...because if he didn't suck...he would be signing a big extension right about now.

Then you can turn to the defense and look at who is actually making money. It is basically Watt, Heyward, Ramsey, and Queen that account for all of that big eyepopping number on defense. I think the rest of the defensive roster is making $5 million or less.

The Steelers got a coordinator and a QB wrong. Very wrong. And they got bit in the ass by TJ Watt either falling of the age cliff or the defensive staff not being able to figure out how to free him up enough. That's it.

 

It would be as bad that Jeff Saturday

 

I agree that Allen should have a say in who the next coach is. The whole point of hiring a new coach in Buffalo is to get them to the Superbowl while Allen still has a few good years left. It would make no sense to hire someone he wasn't on board with.

 

Yet some people want to complain about the Rooney Rule, Rivers isn't qualified and shouldn't be getting an interview for an NFL HC job .