Sean McDermott - Bills

Wrong again.

Allen was on the last year of his rookie deal in 2020 and signed a $258M extension after his MVP season with Diggs. It was his best season and Diggs was the main reason why. From there they had a ton of success they just couldn’t get past Mahomes most years.


and as others have pointed out. They were 14 seconds from a SB with Allen and Diggs one year.

Who cares what Hurts and AJ’s cap hit was the first year or 2. They were on the same team and won a SB. Deal with cap hell if you must but give your QB a chance to win. Even though we never won a SB with Ben and AB. The expectation was there based on the talent.

This idea that a good QB can carry mediocre talent is dated. If you have a good QB get him some weapons.

 

Yes looking at their draft history there are a lot of busts in the early rounds in Buffalo. Elam, Coleman etc. They did hit on a few good guys later like Shakir and Benford

Bottom line though is that Buffalo roster has no blue chip players except Allen. That’s almost hard to do, and it’s not the fault of the HC unless he has more influence over the draft than we are led to believe.

 

This is the first loss Allen deserve blame,the other years,win or lose he was great but he had often no margin of error

 

The over thrown pass to the TE was a game winner on the last drive where they settled for a FG.

As good as Josh Allen is, he does a lot of hero ball weirdo stuff that ends up being a turnover.

The play before halftime I was thinking.. “look at this fool” when he took off running with a loaf of bread. I wasn’t shocked at all when he fumbled. Someone said it was the typical Josh Allen cartoon football play.

The problem with Josh Allen is he tried to win the game on every play. Sometimes you just need to slide and go into halftime

 

But I thought it was only Tomlin's defense that struggled in the playoffs .

 

at the same time,he had 0 turnover in the previous 6 playoffs game

 

Not me

I mentionned it mutiples time in the past that the Bills defense were bad in the playoffs and it cost the job of their head coach

 

Maybe now fans will realize how hard it is to win in the playoffs when your QB turns the ball over 4 times or more, look at Stroud and Allen.

 

I love how the refs in the booth who work for the NFL always find ways to agree with these weird calls that most people don’t agree with.

Now I’n seeing people say “if he dropped it, it wouldn’t be a catch”

No ****.. but he didn’t drop it, he had it with 2 hands and his body was on the ground. Any other year that is a catch. All a sudden its not a catch anymore.

If the defender snatch it away before the WR hit the ground then yes.. INT. But that review showed the WR in possession on the ground and then it was snatched away.

 

Any football fan that knows the slightest bit about the sport understands that committing turnovers is not conducive to winning.

Maybe you should explain your point a little further.

 

He’s trying to make excuses for MT not winning a playoff game for a decade.

 

I'm talking like when the Steelers loss to the Browns in the playoffs and Ben threw 4 interceptions, but fans want to blame the HC for that loss.

 

I was talking about one specific game, but some fans can't admit Ben sucked. Keep that same energy when the new coach goes 5-12 or 6-11 .

 

If we go 5-12 next year and get a top draft pick QB in 2027 it would be the greatest thing to happen around here in 15 years.

 

I agree...this is also hard to win when you gave up 30 points in a playoffs game,no matter how great your QB is

 

Things like that are going to happen once in a while.

Just like there are many games the Steelers and Tomlin had no business winning if it weren't for Ben making plays no other quarterback could. He had that same quarterback that was a master of pulling out games in last second fashion like hardly any that has ever played. How many games would they have lost if Ben wasn't the quarterback of that team?

Are you really trying to make it sound like poor Tomlin had to put up with having a Hall of Fame quarterback that had a bad game once in a while?

It just seems like you won't let this whole Tomlin thing go. The Steelers fans didn't throw him out on his ass. He left the game because he chose to. You are trying to blame Mike Tomlin losing his job on losing playoff games because of bad quarterback play.

Why aren't you blaming the defenses that have averaged giving up 37.33 points per game in the last six playoff losses? Because defense was Tomlin's baby, and that side of the ball got the lion's share of the salary cap. There are a whole lot of reasons to look in that direction for any failures.

 

And the solution the league landed on was to go from a rule that was more objective to one that was more subjective.

 

FWIW, it's probably easier to "man up and take the blame" when (1) you had 4 turnovers, which is horrible by any measure and (2) you know that you're basically unfireable.

 

There it is. Another Ben sucks fan.

Misplaced hate my friend. Anyone that thinks a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback was the problem needs to get a better grip on reality.

 

Like the interception Peyton Wilson had against the Ravens last year. He stole the ball before they hit the ground.

 

I think his point is probably the Ben turned the ball over a lot in the playoffs.

He was our greatest strength and our greatest weakness in the playoffs. Pretty much the definition of a high variance player. He was his generations Favre. Maybe Allen is that guy for this generation of QBs? Although he did go 6 games without a turnover. I wonder what Ben's longest streak in the playoffs without a turnover was?

Note: I always put in this disclaimer because some don't like ever hearing anything critical of Ben. I think he's a clearly 1st ballot HoF player (though I worry about the new rules + Midgeville + Peter King screwing him out of getting in on the 1st ballot). I also think he was the best QB I'll ever see play for the Steelers. I think he's the reason that Cowher is in the HoF. And if Tomlin gets inducted, it will also be because of Ben. But for all the times he was Dr. Jekyll, he also had more than his fair share of being Mr. Hyde. And as he got older, the ratio of Jekyll/Hyde (on the field) got worse.

 

Not sure why it's so hard to realize that we're talking about cap hits and not cash.

In 2020 (I think that's the year your talking about here), Josh Allen's Cap hit was $5.5MM. That's the 291st highest cap hit in the league. (link)

This year (2025), Allen's cap hit is $36.3MM. That's 11th in the league (link)

Now...can you imagine a reason why roster construction in these two years might be different? Hint: it's the QB cap hit!

When you pay a QB that much, you have to take money away from another big time position. And since the QB's job is to make the WRs better*, it makes sense to take money away from WRs. Which are insanely expensive.

* Notice how we were so great a drafting WRs when Ben was in or near his prime? But we suddenly suck at it now when we're playing Kenny and co. under center.