Ok Am I Missing Something.

In today’s NFL and competitive balance there is no reason to think with some good drafts we can’t be a contending team within 2/3 years. I agree the next year or 2 could be tough but as long as we see improvement and hopefully get our next QB we will once again have hope. Most of us realized under MT we had no shot for close to a decade.

 

Had me wondering how a HC goes from building a dynasty to eventually building average teams. I mean, Noll didn't forget how to coach after 10 seasons. What changed? Answer; the NFL.
New ideas, new strategies. Was it Lee Iacocca who said "if you aren't leading, you're falling behind "?
Which brings me to the Steelers should look hard at an offensive head coach for this next generation.

 

Even Tomlin knew in the end "I can't do this" he even said he was stepping down as it was best for the organisation. The fanbois who couldn't/wouldn't see the painful truth for all those years are in their feelings right now.

They're like Art Flanders-Rooney - heads are still in the sand, stuck in the past with outdated thinking, and believing 9-8 and blown out a week later is contending.

"If we can patch this and this together we can win bro"...

But no, we have seen you cannot, you have to build a championship team, that requires realism and a plan, not hoping you can patch one together, and then throw in a QB from goodwill and just hope...

 

The organisation is mired in all our yesterdays, it's what happens to great sports organisations, they fall in love with this "......way" nonsense...and they flatter themselves that they're somehow special, and they donlt have to make the effort to improve and change.

The Steelers are an absolute prime example of hubris and complacency, the game has changed. The Steelers are behind the curve, Art seems like he's learned nothing.

We'll find out over the next few years if the Steelers have to learned to innovate or not, when you're winning all that old aura and mystique is great to call on, but you have to be winning for all that History to have any positive effect, or it's just all hot air.

 

It's not 'hubris and complacency'. It's a belief in a system that brought them sustained success over many years. As with any system, it can become outdated and in need of revision. This requires two things; a leader (owner) that understands that change is needed, and the experts (staff/coaches) that can make it happen. More and more it's becoming a league of parity. Small changes could lead to big advances. And of course, it could go the other way, with small changes leading to big steps back. This is the fear the org needs to overcome.

 

Kyle Shanahan is one of the brightest coaches in the league, but even he endured back-to-back losing seasons with the San Francisco 49ers while he and John Lynch rebuilt their roster. Payton suffered through an 8-9 season in Denver while he and the Broncos upgraded key areas and toiled for their franchise quarterback.

So, a lean year or two could lie ahead, and if it is indeed brief, the Steelers should count themselves fortunate.

Team brass and their fans would like to think the strength of the organization will protect them from dramatic regression. They’re about to find out just how strong a foundation this thing rests on, however. The man who overcame odds and masked deficiencies for nearly two decades — and probably never truly earned the full appreciation he deserved — is gone, and wizards of similar ilk don’t come along every day.

 

It's hubris and complacency when it is glaringly obvious it no longer works. Art doesn't sound like he's learned anything either.

If Tomlin would have adapted and progressed and hired a better staff...we'd maybe have another ring or two and he'd still be here...but he didn't...

He/the team have been been forced into this situation where he felt he had to resign because they refused to see what was glaringly obvious, preferring instead to wrap themselves in the comfort blanket of familiarity...

Resistant to change, now overwhelemed by reality.

 

I laugh that Rooney is going to give a lot of time.
1st. He has never been in charge of a situation like this until now, and ......
2nd. Both the last HCs came in winning more games in their 1st year than the team had the year before.
Also sorry, but it's a nice try that people are trying to pass off that a team that won 10 games for 3 straight years is terrible. Either the roster is good enough to allow that, or the HCs were good enough to make it that way. You doom , and gloom people can't have it both ways.
You guys paint Yourselves into a corner, and don't even realize it. It's one or the other, and we shall soon find out. I hope it's the one that allows us to be good next year, but I don't want to suck.

 

An example was the 2015 Steelers. This was a coach that got the team to the divisional round with an offense that fielded sixteen different OL combinations. A lesser coach doesn't sniff the playoffs.

I get it though. There is a group of fans that would rather they sucked for a year or two to draft better players. But I guarantee those same fans would be bitching up a storm during those losing seasons.

 

True and Munchak was so good with us too.... Of course,Ben was out for 4 games,Bell was out for the second half of the season,so it was a very good coaching job for Tomlin and I would gave him maybe a A+ if they would not lost the game against a depleted ravens team at the end of the season....Still it was a very good coaching job and the steelers had their hardest schedule that year since 2008 and I don't think the steelers had a tough schedule like that since that time

 

I’ve been consistent in saying that without Tomlin the 2020-2025 Steelers are 6 or 7 win teams.

Never backed away from that.

 

I think they are about to be a 6-7 win teams in the next few years .

 

I hope not. I remember those years.

 

It will worth that if it help the steelers to have their next franchise QB

 

All depends upon whether the Ravens and Browns get it right or get it wrong.

 

There is that, but that only would guarantee 4 wins.

 

If. You don't have to suck to get a great Qb. You just gotta pick the right one.

 

The Ravens will have an advantage because they have their QB, I said 6-7 wins because we have no idea who will be the Steelers starter. Rodgers won't be coming to give them a legit QB in 2026.

 

OK? NO IT SHOULD BE
AR?

 

Because we didn't know who some of them were going to be then, just like You don't know what some of the players we have will be. I also think it funny to compare a roster that went 9-7, and 7-9 with Chuck Noll to a roster that went 10 -7, 10-7 with Tomlin.
Either Tomlin was a better HC than people say, or our roster is better. You can't have it both ways.

 

How would you know we have never seen this Rooney in this position. None of us knows how he will react.

 

If a team is winning games and having winning seasons, and a new coach comes in. Now the team doesn't win games would be a step back. The new coach should be able to at least keep pace.