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Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Karl, Dec 2, 2025.

  1. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    I think they got it right more than once recently.
     
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  2. mac daddyo

    mac daddyo Well-Known Member

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    howard
    rudolph
    thompson

    :cool:
     
  3. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    But he hasn't looked better than Rodgers. Aaron had to come back in the game with a broken nose and broken bones in his wrist because the 2 balls that Rudolph threw were a ground ball and the other one picked off. If Rodgers gets hurt again then Will Howard should be the backup, he might be as bad as Rudolph but he might actually play well. We don't know until he plays.
     
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  4. TGH

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    We need to invest starting snaps in young worthy quarterbacks. Rudolph is next in line. I like Howard but he is not next in line.
    We have drafted good worthy quarterbacks but have not given them the starts. Including Pickett whose career here was cut short after a year and a half. That is serious mismanagement of the quarterback position by Tomlin.
     
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  5. Karl

    Karl Well-Known Member

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    Right now, I'd take Skylar Thompson over Mason or Howard.
     
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  6. freakfontana

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    why safeties ? We have 3 good ones on the roster
     
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  7. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Rudolph isn't a young worthy QB. He's 30 freaking years old in his 8th year in the league. He's a lot closer to the end of his career than the beginning.
     
  8. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    And those Safeties are geriatric with contracts expiring sans Ramsey. None of them are the future.
     
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  9. TGH

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    But Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold are okay as new starters in Indy and Seattle, or Baker in Tampa?

    Tomlin has passed on in-house talented quarterbacks deserving of starting that the scouting department gave him. He passed on that opportunity because he did not want to go through rebuild seasons with a new rookie starter.
    Well, he failed two years in a row and wasted those two seasons.
    He may quit, he knows he fkd up.
     
  10. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Jones, Darnold and Mayfield were all high first round draft picks whose pedigrees out of college were much higher than Mason's. QB's with their talent are always going to get more chances than a backup journeyman like Rudolph.
     
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  11. freakfontana

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    how old are dugger and elliot ? Anyway i would take best players available we have holes everywhere
     
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  12. blackandgoldpatrol

    blackandgoldpatrol Well-Known Member

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    I'm hanging my hat on Will Howard at QB.

    That said, before we signed Asante Samuel Jr, I was hoping by some miracle that Mansoor Delane would fall to us....
    But as Bill Cowher used to say... you can't have too many good cb's
     
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  13. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    I may end up being fantastically wrong over this but I think Howard starts next year and excels. I just think the guy has it and the only argument I ever see against him is he is a 6th rd pick.

    To your second point, yeah, I think the focus on the defense of side of the ball will be the secondary, STD gets his wish finally.
     
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  14. Joel Buchsbaum

    Joel Buchsbaum Well-Known Member

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    Mac Jones can make a decent bridge qb, but we need to draft a QB in round one of the 2026 draft.

    That would be addressing the position!

    We currently pick 14th!

    Use our draft capital to trade up in round one? ( For Simpson ? )

    Draft Mateer after trading down in round one?
     
  15. Born2Steel

    Born2Steel Well-Known Member

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    I'm not for taking a QB in round 1 this year. Keep building the OL and defensive secondary with first round picks. Get more LBs, DL, and WRs in round 2&3. We are not ready to start a rookie at QB.
     
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  16. RobertoC#21

    RobertoC#21 Well-Known Member

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    Because Tomlin wants smaller faster ILB that can cover. Well our scheme doesnt play out that way, they arent covering and they are too small to fill the hole and prevent a decent gain on running plays. In other words, bad scheme bad design, same common denominator.
     
  17. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Trade for Watson in 2026? (still on the books through 2029, the gift that keeps on giving :lolol:)

    In March, Browns owner Jimmy Haslam called the team’s 2022 trade for Watson “a big swing and miss.” The Browns gave Watson $230 million guaranteed and traded three first-round picks to Houston to acquire him, but the results haven’t come close to matching the investment.

    While Sanders had some moments, the loss to the 49ers was a crash back to reality after the Browns feasted on the Raiders in Week 12.
    Watson has started 19 games over three seasons with the Browns. He was limited to six games in 2023 after serving an 11-game suspension for violating the NFL’s personal conduct policy, and each of his last two seasons has been ended by injury and subsequent surgeries. Watson has completed 61 percent of his passes in a Cleveland uniform, and the Browns are 9-10 in games he’s started.

    The Browns still have a huge financial commitment to Watson, who counts just under $36 million on the team’s 2025 salary cap and is currently scheduled to count for just over $80 million in 2026. The Browns have re-worked Watson’s contract multiple times to lower his cap numbers and could do so again after this season.
     

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  18. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    I'll just plop this here as something to remember when draft season rolls around:

    "Both were asked about the adrenaline of leading up to the Draft. The potential to move up or down. If it’s like preparing for a game you are trying to win with a plan you are confident in?

    “It’s a game to be played, it’s competition,” Tomlin said. “It is fun.”

    Then came the comment to ensure that you need to take every report around draft time with some skepticism. All of the insider scoops detailing a team’s thoughts on a player after a visit. Analyzing every facial expression made by a Steelers coach or front-office staffer during a pro day, the NFL Combine, draft eligible bowl practices. What is the size of the team’s representation at a college’s pro day? The thought that every one of the 30 players brought in to Pittsburgh to meet with the team before the draft is an absolute lock to be selected.

    Think about all of that and then remember this quote from Tomlin on Tuesday.

    “I think about it at pro days as you guys watch us move, who I interact with, where I go,” Tomlin said. “Sometimes it’s real, sometimes it’s not.

    “The same could be said about who we bring in on pre-draft visits.”"
     
  19. Steelersfan43

    Steelersfan43 Well-Known Member

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  20. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    Mack Jones or Kirk Cousins will be the Steelers starter next year.
     
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  21. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Pickett cut his own career short.
     
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  22. 86WardsWay

    86WardsWay Well-Known Member

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    Howard hasn’t even thrown a single regular season NFL pass yet and a bunch of you have already labeled him a bust. It’s no secret that he had a hell of a cast around him when he won the National Championship but, no team wins that without a top quality QB. I don’t think the Steelers are as desperate for a QB next year as some of yinz make em out to be.
     
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  23. Hanratty#5

    Hanratty#5 Well-Known Member

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    If the final game with the Ravens doesn't mean anything then Howard should start. Why throw Rudolph out there? That doesn't help the team one bit. At least give Howard one NFL game, that would be a valuable experience for him going into next year.
     
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  24. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    Big problem with this is... draft status doesn't mean draft wins. Plenty of high draft guys on every team are failures, and Plenty of low drafted players are good, and some even great.
     
  25. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    And not one person knows if a starting caliber QB is in the draft. More times there is no good Qbs in a draft, than there is a good Qb in the Draft. Nobody knows for a fact.
     

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