Win the division or get a new head coach?

It's to be expected I suppose. After all, we're living in a world of Tik Tok doctors and lawyers......

 

Tell me that after they reach a SB. I've heard the same about many HCs that have already been fired.

 

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It is the question, both are what's wanted! Not my fault that the question wasn't opposing enough to be a true one OR the other scenario. Also sorry that you are too dim to see that both are reasonable. Reading comprehension isn't the issue, seems to me that someone didn't get past 3rd grade english. When you want a one or another scenario, you make the 2 choices like night versus day, good versus evil. Not a Yes/Yes question where both choices aren't opposing one another.

 

Multiple choice implies more than 1 possible answer. You are correct, it is a simple question, like the ones that my grandchildren write because they have no concept of contrast or what makes a sentence thought provoking or a this vs that. I guess you think this is a good question whereas I believe its of the same context and offers no opposing view one way or the other. I can want us to win the division and change coaches. There is no correlation to winning the division and not changing coaches just as there isn't a correlation of not winning the division and not changing coaches. Why would anyone want to not win the division? There isn't a correlation to not winning the division so that we lose the coach. The same as if I chose a coaching change, there isn't a correlation that losing the division will guarantee that happening. SO since there are no correlations to either answer I stand as wanting both. Its not that hard to understand.

I think from what I am gathering from yours and STD's childish behavior, this is what the question should really say:

What do you want to happen if:
A: We win the division and we keep Tomlin
B: We lose the division and we still keep Tomlin
C: We win the division and we get rid of Tomlin
D: We lose the division and we get rid of Tomlin

 

Then, next time, YOU make the poll. I think that poll was kinda stupid and, probably come up with as a way of saying, "I hate Tomlin and want him gone"! STD and I have childish responses? Go look at the "poll". Do you want to win the division OR have Tomlin gone" 2 choices. A, or B. There is no C or D. It's not that hard to understand!

 

I've already explained the flaw in the question, do I need to break out the crayons?

 

some great coach never make to the super bowl,some bad coach make a super bowl but awful rest of the time like Zac Taylor

 

Only when you want to write to your parole officer. There's no flaw in the question, it's just a question. If you think there should be more choices, YOU ask the question. Maybe you don't speak English as a first language, maybe you're a product of public schools, most likely, you're just too stubborn to admit you read the question wrong. We all get what you're saying but, that wasn't the question!

 

Tomlin has to go ! Division or not division ...period !

 

STOOPID POLE!!!!!!

 

I think it's pretty clear the implied meaning of the poll is "Win the division (and keep Tomlin as head coach) or (miss the playoffs) and fire Tomlin."

We are being asked what we value more, a division title playoff appearance or Tomlin as a head coach.

 

I would agree for now.
Bo Nix is dangerous. That offense will click at some point.
I think they been without their RB and that aspect of their game is the meat of it...
But if we faced them today, I think we match up well. Houston is in the same boat though CJ Stroud just hasn't been the rookie CJ stroud.. but that defense is for real.

 

This x 1000.

Personally I've been wanting Tomlin gone for years, but I'll never root for the Steelers to lose anything, including the division.

 

English is my first language and I have a Masters Degree in Engineering. I also have done 3 tours in Iraq and let me explain one more time about your question. When you ask a question there should be no room for interpretation unless you want mixed results. On the battle field unclear orders or interpretive orders cost lives. I get that this isn't life or death but when you live a life paying attention to detail, even the smallest amount of uncertainty can be costly.

 

Must be costly for you.
1) It's not MY question
2) This particular question, or poll if you will, only offered 2 possible answers
3) It's not MY question!
You need to take up your objections with whomever made the poll.

 

I don't think you can accurately answer the poll without some context. The OP said, "This is not considering the likely scenario that we would get stomped again in the first playoff game." Well, that's some critical context.

If you ask this of someone at the beginning of a season, where hopes are high, I think most would say that winning the division is their choice over removing Tomlin.

But when you ask this of someone now, when we're playing like trash on both sides of the ball and winning the division likely means a 9-8 record against a division that currently sucks from top to bottom resulting again in a first round playoff humiliation, I think many are going to choose removing Tomlin.

There's only 1 out of 32 teams that would keep a head coach around for this long with 4 seasons resulting in a playoff win, out of going-on-19 seasons of coaching.

 

Of course I would prefer both but I do not think that is a possible outcome. No way Tomlin is shown the door if we win the division. IMO he won't leave voluntarily either. Ever.

 

I wonder how many first round playoff humiliations, Renegade home booing's and "fire Tomlin" chants he could take before leaving voluntarily? I'm sure the guy has some pride and those things have to hurt.

Winning the division this year is not a very significant accomplishment, given how poorly the rest of the division is playing. We/he needs to play a competitive playoff game. I'm not even talking about winning. Just playing a competitive game where we're solidly still in the game in the 4th quarter. It's been a VERY long time since we've done that.

 

Thank you for your service!

 

100% probability MT is back next season unless he walks away voluntarily. I'm taking all bets.
The Watt signing and Heyward pay raise told us that. The steelers reward loyalty and high character, long after they should.
To keep the culture. It's an intangible.

In fact, the AFC coaching picture might be quite different next season. Harbaugh, Reid or Tomlin could walk away, maybe all 3 if they have bad years.

 

Get a new coach and it's an easy decision.

We've done the "win the division" and "limp into the wild-card" with Tomlin over and over and over and over and we have nothing but embarrassments for January for almost a decade. That is a long, LONG time in football terms and in human terms. I lost patience 5 years ago. I'd take an 0-17 season and that embarrassment if it would finally convince Rooney. Missing out on the playoffs for a year to punt Tomlin? Easiest decision of my life.

 

That team was a SB contender before the year started. The mid-season slide brought out all the doubters. But they were way better offensively and defensively than this squad. It's not close. They always had the talent/potential.

But...I cheer for my team to win. Division title>>>>>>losing so Tomlin gets canned

 

Other than 2020, when did we limp in s a division winner?