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Are the players finally grasping Smiths offense

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Blast Furnace, Dec 10, 2025.

  1. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    The article mentions the lack of ground game which is one caveat but the other thing not mentioned is the lack of Ravens pass rush.

    I need to see them do it over the next several weeks but that would be a nice development heading into the playoffs for sure.
     
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  2. S.T.D

    S.T.D Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if they are, or aren't, but I do know every time you have different players such as Qbs , wrs, and Rbs, they can't call the same things as you call for others.
     
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  3. steel machine

    steel machine Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Prisco but we'll wait and see.
     
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  4. AskQuestionsLater

    AskQuestionsLater Writing Team

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    Are they?!


    It is very difficult to say. One thing that is for certain though; Aaron Rodgers definitely trusted his Offensive Line a lot more today than he ever has all season long. That is saying quite a bit. Could be something else.


    Going to have to wait and see.
     
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  5. Pappy928

    Pappy928 Well-Known Member

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    Can we maybe point out that Baltimore is 3rd worst in the sack dept? Their pass rush isn't so amazing this year.

    Lets hold the party hats for another week.
     
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  6. forgotten1

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    Like they did the defense a little while back.

    Did they simplify the simple more?

    It's been said
    Stack wins

    I'll wait .
     
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  7. Animus

    Animus Well-Known Member

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    The offense looked solid in the 1H and went into a lull in the 2H. I'll wait and see how this goes the rest of the way. The lack of commitment to the ground game, even when they have success doing it is troublesome. Balance is the key to unlocking this offense.
     
  8. Steel Acorn

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    Not a fan of all the different personnel packages - it makes it easier for the defense to guess what type of play is being called. I think that is part of the "We do what we do, and let them try to stop it" rather than keep the opponent guessing. I think the defense may suffer from the same issue.
     
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  9. Thigpen82

    Thigpen82 Bitter optimist

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    Agree in general, but I think the lack of production from Jonnu Smith, lack of targets for Muth, and the absence of a bona fide WR2 adds to it.
     
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  10. DJ18Baller

    DJ18Baller Well-Known Member

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    We can’t consistently run the ball or better yet refuse to stick with the run. We also don’t have enough playmakers outside. This is a bottom rung NFL offense. One bright spot besides Jones who is now hurt the OL seems to be improving in pass blocking.
     
  11. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    100%

    Under pressure, Rodgers hasn't been that great. If the OL can keep him from getting hit early in a game it changes the offense. Some analysts are talking up the fact that adding bigger receivers in MVS and Thielen changed how the defense was playing. I think it more of a coincidence because of the BAL focus on stopping the run.
    MIA DBs are a much better test with Jack Jones and Minkah on the field.
     
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  12. Robert

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    The Steelers have already had a couple of games where they played well. The problem is that they don't do it twice in a row. When that happens, we can start talking about how they might be improving.....imo

    Also, when is the last time that the Steelers played well in December? That is another dark thought bouncing around my head. Same coaches. Many of the same players. The only real difference this year is that there doesn't seem to be any really dominant teams this season. Everyone is having ups and downs.

    But, I do think that we will beat the dolphins. Hopefully we actually beat them rather than benefit from beneficial calls or the dolphins beating themselves.
     
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  13. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    :this!:
     
  14. Karl

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    I can't say they are grasping the offense better. Baltimore has a terrible defense.

    It should be noted that they did go downfield more which is a Rogers trait. They had better (not best) WR's pushing the DB's and could run the ball just enough.
    The offensive line is not as good as some might think, maybe it is not matured yet and injuries, but whatever the reasons they are not run blocking which is the easiest phase of the game for OL.
    You gotta have 100+ yards from the run game. It is needed to keep the Defense fresh and open up play-action which Rogers thrives in.
    Gainwell is really fitting well in that pass/run option offense... I didn't really see that in the beginning.
    Still, we need to get what think we saw from Warren..
     
  15. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    :this!:

    The heavy package makes the line look better than it really is. Both guards need upgrading. McCormick would be a solid backup, but he's the weak link on the interior.

    But don't bother drafting any OL if Meyers is still around. He would struggle to teach a dog to fetch.
     
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  16. MojaveDesertPghFan

    MojaveDesertPghFan Set the controls for the heart of the Sun.

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    Seeing Rogers moving about elusively in the backfield was refreshing but whether that was really him or knowing the D line couldn't catch him is anyone's guess. It was fun to watch, at least this past week.
     
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  17. S.T.D

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    On every board of every team. If it works it's good , if it doesn't its bad, and people will try picking holes in it, and even go so far as to make up things that aren't even happening. LoL
    I have been watching a team this year that almost everyone on this board says their HC is a genius, and many have said is the number 1 HC in the league, with one of the best QBs to ever play, and they can't even get to 500.
    Sometimes things just don't work, and the other teams get paid, and coached also.
     
  18. Bubbahotep

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    Stat of the day:

    When the Steelers use pullers on a run play they average 6.2 yds/att, without pulling they average 3.4 yds/att.
     
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  19. HeinzMustard

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    And sometimes HC's are tone deaf on offense and their defense is overpaid, overrated and can't stop the run.... going on 5 years. :smiley1:
     
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  20. Joel Buchsbaum

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    Well, our opening day players Tolmin and Smith started are not the reason for the recent success.

    Young players that were overlooked in camp such as Gainwell, Cook, and Washington who were 3rd third stringers have made a difference. We can see that now they are starting.

    One would assume a good professional coach would know what his own players are after 30 or more practices.

    But not Tweedle dee or Tweedle dum
     
  21. Bubbahotep

    Bubbahotep Well-Known Member

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    Every season, every team is different. What worked last season might not work this season (see Barkley in Philly). Finding that new combination is the challenge every HC finds themselves in each year. Sometimes it takes a little longer.

    Seems Wilson is losing snaps to Skowronek, MVS, and Thielen. Is it coincidence the passing game is improving?

    Screenshot 2025-12-16 101355.png
     
  22. cajunyankee

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    I say no. I feel we may be seeing the Rodgers Effect!!

    I saw a report the said starting in Ben’s last two seasons no matter the OC the Steelers Passing avoided the middle of the field like the Plague!!! This was Tomlin living in his fear of turnovers because middle of the field is risky and dangerous !!!

    It has continued with Rodgers to start the season But there is now a little more in the middle recently!!!

    I saw an interview with Will Howard where he said Rodgers runs a players only film study with the offense and he, Howard, is responsible to operate and run the film as he told!

    I’ve heard Rodgers say things would be better if certain players would Showup for Study!!! Then they bring in Theilen and MVS and Wilson becomes healthy in-active!!!

    I think Rodger is being given more freedom and input into the gameplan and gameday decisions.

    Cajun
     
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  23. BigBensBigBong

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    Our offense needs to ramp up and play all 4 quarters, no more going dormant for a half or quarter.

    If our offense plays with consistency for 4 quarters, we would be tough to beat. This would also help our defense which also shows some glimmer of hope for improving.
     
  24. RobertoC#21

    RobertoC#21 Well-Known Member

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    I'm hoping that these coaches are that smart, because Rodgers is a HOF QB and I am sure he see's more and knows more than what Smith thinks will work. Use the HOF'er to take this offense to the next level. We saw what Ben did in the hurry up / no huddle / 2 minute drill when we scored 80% of our points to pull games out of nowhere.

    Also, I give props to the coaches for the past 2 games, but I also have no idea why it has taken this long to do so. Was it the chants for his head that woke Tomlin up or did it wake the players up? In either case I believe we have seen a change and if its one or the other or both, great!

    One quick side note that I would like to point out, Tomlin has had HOF QB's for 16 or 17 years out of his 19 years I believe. Not too obvious as to why he has continued winning. Just a thought to make you go hmmm.
     
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  25. S.T.D

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    Really. LoL. OK let's look at that.
    Rodgers record since leaving GB before coming to Pittsburgh: 5-12, since coming to Pittsburgh: 8-6.
    K. Pickett in Pittsburgh: 14-10, since leaving Pittsburgh 1-2.
    Mason Rudolph with Pittsburgh: 8-5-1 , away from Pittsburgh: 1-4
    Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh: 6-5, Since leaving Pittsburgh: 0-3.
    Justin Fields in Pittsburgh: 4-2, since leaving Pittsburgh: 2-7.
     
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