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Two-year extension for Jaylen Warren

Discussion in 'Steelers Talk' started by Steelersfan43, Sep 1, 2025.

  1. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    Its not a spin. We legitimately can't throw the ball. Warren might be our best offensive player on the whole team...

    You're entitled to your opinion, no matter how stupid/wrong it is.
     
  2. SGSteeler

    SGSteeler Well-Known Member

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    I'm convinced that we can line Gainwell up in the slot if we wanted to. He has great hands and is a real threat out of the backfield as a receiver. This RB room is really nice. As the OL continues to develop (and maybe we find a way to complete a forward pass) we are in a good spot at RB.
     
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  3. D0bre Shunka

    D0bre Shunka Well-Known Member

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    He’s obviously not the cure all but he’s the least of our problems.
    He’s one that I would keep if I was cutting through this roster like a hot knife through butter. Maybe not 1, but a keep.
     
  4. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    You aren't disputing my points because you can't. I was right in predicting that Warren would be less durable than Harris was over the last four years. I was right in predicting that Warren would not be able to handle the same workload as Harris. I was right in pointing out how the offense's limitations affected Harris as they would affect Warren in the lead role. The numbers back that up, too. I have the facts on my side. You don't.

    I don't want a tiresome debate. I want you to admit I was right about those things because the facts back me up. You are the one dragging this out with tiresome nonsense rather than just taking the L.
     
  5. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    Keep repeating it, wont make it true. Disputing it with a debate just validates that nonsense. Which you keep desperately showing you want me to do.
     
  6. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    Such weak sauce from a guy who can't admit I was right and he was wrong. I'm not desperate. I am disappointed. The facts are indisputable by anyone looking at them honestly. Warren can't match the durability they got from Harris. He can't match the workload. Those aren't opinions. Those are facts. You have been crying about the offense holding him back, just as it did to Harris. I was right about that, too.

    Man, do better.
     
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  7. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    :lolol: You’re a riot. You’’re going to need better bait than that my guy.

    Hey everyone, has Scribe convinced you he is right yet but repeating the same thing over and over and over again? Thats who all this performative bs is for, it’s not for me, obviously I’m not going to agree with his nonsense, it’s for all of you. Scribe desperately needs you to believe he is right. That and his desperate attempt to get me to debate him.
     
  8. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I don't want you to debate me. I want you to stop referring to facts as nonsense. I'm presenting an evidence-based argument. You are responding with ad hominem arguments and trolling. I don't mind repeating my accurate arguments. I wish I wasn't right. I wish Warren had emerged as an elite running back this season. He hasn't. Each time you deny my fact-based arguments, you look more foolish.

    The Steelers started Harris over Warren the last three seasons because he was the better option. He was more durable. He protected the ball better. He was able to take on a heavier workload. As the lead back, he was limited more by the massive flaws in the offense. All of those were a concern regarding Warren moving into the lead back role. With the exception of ball security, the games so far this season have demonstrated that all of those concerns were accurate.

    Durability is easy. Harris never missed one start in four seasons with the Steelers. Warren missed one entire game and parts of two others. Therefore, I was right in saying the Steelers would lose durability with Warren in the lead role.

    The numbers also back up my claim about workload. The Steelers are still limiting Warren's snaps and touches. I already presented the numbers to back this up. You chose to ignore them because you don't like them.

    Also as expected, Warren's average per carry declined as he moved into the lead role. He is currently at 4.2 per carry, but that has gotten worse as the season has worn on. The Steelers faced two of the league's worst run defenses the last two games. I don't mean yards given up. I mean in average per carry. Warren averaged 3.8 yards against the Bears and 3.5 against the Bills. It's not about limited opportunities. He's just not as good as the lead back as he was in the passing down/reserve role. This is exactly what I and others tried to tell you going into the season, but you didn't want to hear it.

    None of this is saying he is bad. He is their best offensive weapon, which also tells you just how bad this offense is. You are doing what you have always done as long as this has discussion has been going on. You are ignoring Warren's weaknesses because they don't fit into your chosen narrative.

    Go and and keep ignoring the facts and covering your denials with by coming after me. I will keep responding with accurate, fact-based arguments. Have a lovely morning.
     
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  9. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    :lolol:

    It’s still hysterical to me that you drew attention to you being wrong about this.

    But keep writing this long winded nonsense, maybe you’ll convince the board you are right and get the validation you crave. There may be some people who do agree with you, if they want to debate it I will but I’m not giving you what you want. Steelers clearly made the right call.
     
  10. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    You clearly haven't been paying attention since I joined this board. I do not care if I convince anybody. I like debating these things. I enjoy it even more when I can make an accurate, fact-based argument and the people opposing me have to rely on falsely claiming victory, avoiding any logical debate because they know they will lose, and covering it up with ad hominem arguments.

    By all means, keep proving me right. It doesn't make my frustration with the Steelers' season go away, but it is entertaining.
     
  11. Blast Furnace

    Blast Furnace Staff Member Mod Team

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    LMFAO ok
     
  12. Formerscribe

    Formerscribe Well-Known Member

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    I know admitting I was right all along would make you feel a little foolish, but trust me, covering it in this foolishness makes you look far worse.
     
  13. forgotten1

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  14. Rel

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    You have to lose before you can win. The Rooney's do not like to lose, they would rather be average and hope to get lucky on year. Also, I do not think the fanbase has the temperament to take the losing. When Cowher did it they wanted him gone immediately.
     

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