The most overrated Steeler?

I just put up a thread in the "other team talk" section about an article NFL.COM just posted about the most overrated/underrated Ravens. So that got me to thinking. Who is the most OVERRATED Steeler? We obviously have an awesome history of truly great players. But do we also have some guys that maybe aren't as good as we originally thought. I personally think we are a harder bunch to fool but who would you guys say? As far as UNDERRATED goes I would say that it's hands down Heath as far as the overall football perspective. Obviously WE know that he's great but the average fan doesn't think of him when they think of great TE's although they obviously should. So he's my pick for most underrated. I'm gonna have to really think of the most OVERRATED though. I just wanted to put this up before I forgot about it. So what do you guys say?

 

Great question! We never seem to ask that about ourselves, do we? We only talk about the underrated (and yeah, I give it to Heath there).

No one's coming to mind right off the bat, because no one on our team is exactly being swarmed with praise. Ben was #67 or whatever on the top 100. In recent history I'd say Kemoeatu (he was quite liked for awhile, before the end). Last year I'd have said Redman from the way everyone here was talking about him, but I think people have come down to earth on him and have him in a more accurate light.

I expect someone will say Pouncey, because there's a movement out there that says he's overrated (PFF says he's barely even an average player). But I don't buy that.

Right now I think it's quite possible Beachum is overrated, because so many are praising him for being this ultra versatile 5 position weapon. He might well know all 5 positions, but so did Trai Essex, and he was terrible at all 5 of them. I have hope for Beachum and I'm not counting him out at all, but I've yet to see him have success against starters at more than one position. There's reason to hope he'll be better, but we still haven't seen it yet. I think people are just counting him as a chicken before he's hatched.

David Johnson is still on the roster, so I'll go with David Johnson. There are still some people out there that think he should be on the team. There are some people that think he was a serviceable player when he last played. Until everyone agrees with me, he's overrated.

 

Yeah every time I see David Johnson I wanna call security and tell them to get this random hanger on off the field. LOL. I think only Tomlin actually likes him. I'm maybe gonna be a little controversial here but I've heard a player on our current roster be referred to as "one of the best" and I honestly have never felt this way. I've never felt that he was totally well rounded. Especially given that we have two other guys that have played his position in the Hall of Fame. I just think that he's JUST ok and I've never been a fan. I'm talking about Ike Taylor. Annnnnd now I'm taking cover!!!!!!!! See ya!!! LOL!

 

Ha, Ike is frustrating because once or twice a year he has a phenomenally bad game. He gets beat, and worse, he commits penalties even if he doesn't need to. But then he plays really well in the other 14 games, and goes on lock down mode for 8 of them. And he's always got the toughest assignments. Not a lot of CBs out there shadow the best WR every play of the game. And he can even go in the slot to cover guys like Welker. If he could catch, he'd be considered one of the very best in the last decade. I think league-wide he's underrated.

But yeah, when he has one of those games, it becomes hard to remember if he ever made a good play in his whole career.

 

Don't forget ike is great in run support. I really wish lebeau would blitz him like woodson.

 

Well the issue for me is that he CAN cover but as a well rounded guy I'd like to see him be able to catch. I fear that Cortez Allen might be the opposite. Cortez Allen doesn't seem to be that fast. I think one thing that has maybe covered some of Ike's inadequacies has been the fact that we've had such a great front 7 that they've never given the qb time to really plant his feet and go deep on us. Guys like Aaron Rogers I think could feast on Ike all day long. Although he could feast on most corners though.

 

So I say Ike. Snack says DJ. So what say you Steel?

 

The most over rated to me right now is Timmons. It shouldn't come down to the last week between him and Foote for tackles. He should have blown Foote out of the water. Don't get me wrong Timmons is a good lber with great range but with his speed and size 120 tackles shouldnt be too hard for him. He doesn't call the defense which IMO holds us back. Think about it like this if Timmons could call the defense we could have a younger more attack oriented player out there other then Foote. It's time for him to step up in one way or another either call the d or get a bunch of tackles and a few picks also throw in a few sacks for good measure. Didn't he himself say he would have double digit sacks this year come farrior got what 6 in his last season with the Steelers. I wonder how good his play recognition is.

 

I probably would've agreed with you if not for this past year that he just had. I've always thought that he was just a guy that was really meant for a 4-3 and that's why he's never been the beast we would hope he is. He has been solid and pretty much always healthy. I wish Woodley would have some of what he's having really. As far as the health goes anyway.

 

This is easy, Lamaar Woodley, Brett Kiesel,Markice Pouncey.

 

Ward agreed with you at first but I can't put Kiesel on that list and, absolutely, can not put Pouncey there. Until LW gets back to what I believe he can be, in my opinion, he is over overrated. I hope he makes me eat crow because I really like the guy and think he is very capable. I have always thought Kiesel was a little better than expected, or atleast, what I expected him to do. Pouncey is one of the top centers, so, I'm not sure where this Pouncey hate is coming from.

 

Thats Ok ISJ, I knew both Kiesel and Pouncey would bring the cat calls, I have NO hate for Pouncey, I just think he is overated same with Kiesel.

 

timmons had 103 tackles, 6 sacks, 3 interceptions, 2 forced fumbles, 5 passes defended. yea he sucks.

i gotta go with larry foote being overated. gave up 4 passing TD's, worst in the league in yardage after contact, way to many assisted tackles as opposed to solo's, they threw agianst him at a 75% completion rating.

 

Being "overrated" simply means a player's true value in fans' minds is not as great as in reality. Thus, even really good players can be overrated. I think Tom Brady is overrated. This doesn't mean I don't think he's one of the best QBs in the game. I just don't think he's as good as Manning, Brees, and Rodgers, even though the media puts him in that group.

Okay...so that said. I'm going to get beaten up for this, but here it goes:

TROY POLAMALU.

Yes, most overrated Steeler at the moment. His play over the past two seasons (especially because of injuries) was not nearly as high as his reputation would dictate.

 

Tough question. For a long time it was Porter. Then Mendy. Now...I just don't know.

 

If we could include players from last years' team, it would be Mike Wallace hands down. What says overrated more than parlaying one skill (speed) into one of the richest WR contracts in NFL history. The guy is crazy fast and anywhere from below average to mediocre in virtually every other category.

But...I guess we're just talking about current Steelers. My vote would have to go to Lammar Woodley. The guy can't stay injury free long enough to make an impact, has weight issues that seem to be slowing him down and is just not that splash performer he seemed to be his first year or two in the league. Hope he turns it around this season but I think he's in danger of going the way of Kendrell Bell.

 

That works if you're including ability to stay on the field (which makes sense). But I think if you're talking about quality of play when healthy, Troy gets the respect he deserves from Steelers fans, and he's underrated across the league. Even now. He played well last year when he was out there.

I agree about Brady. People talk about him like it's down to him or Joe Montana for greatest of all time. He's always been way below Manning in my book. And yeah, I put Rodgers and Brees ahead of him too. It drives me nuts that everyone uses Super Bowl titles to judge individual players. They do that with the Hall of Fame, too.

 

Mendy? Overrated?? Please, most fans wanted him on the bench so they could make Dancing with the Stars jokes. He was one of the most underrated players on the team during his entire career.

 

What the... do you seriously just look at tackle statistics to decide who is good?

 

Yeah and tackles are really hard to measure anyway. I'm not even sure how they gauge who the tackles go to. But I probably would have considered Timmons overrated before last year but I really think a more fair assessment of him would just be to say that he's under the radar. He's always healthy which for us is a huge plus! He's fundamental and he's really not that slow. He just has that one shining moment in a certain mile high city that he will probably never live down. LOL.

 

As it turns out NFL NETWORK is doing this for all 32 teams so we are gonna see who they say. They are ranking the most over/under of all time in the franchise. That was my intent when I started this thread but we mostly just have focused on this team which is probably the way it should be since this team has some guys that have been on championship teams.

 

I think before last season, he (Timmons) could have been considered overrated, but he had a breakout season last year and I'm expecting (hoping for) more of the same this year and beyond.

 

Most over-rated of all time for the Steelers? Now THAT is a tough question. I think the most under-rated would be a little easier and there would be multiple candidates for that designation.

 

Yeah that's why in the original post I didn't put my most overrated guy because I was having to really think about it since I was thinking about our whole history. I STILL haven't thought of who that might be.